Posted by gillispie on 4/20/2022 12:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Basketts on 4/20/2022 11:31:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by Basketts on 4/14/2022 11:11:00 PM (view original):
12-0-0-0 was a gimmick back in the day. I don't think 6-6-0-0 or 6-0-6-0 should be considered a gimmick. It certainly doesn't mean you are not an effective team builder and automatically don't qualify as an experienced coach. That just seems like pretentious talk. I like that this game can be played multiple ways, so if you prefer this, go for it as long as you know its advantages and disadvantages.

i kind of assume this was in response to my use of the word gimmick - but maybe not. i don't assign the same negative connotation to the word, that basketts seems to assign here. i agree though, nothing wrong with running it. it doesn't disqualify you as an experienced coach... i just don't recommend it to experienced coaches, because its not generally the way to play for success. i guess ill close with re-posting the two lines i used directly after use of the word gimmick.

"for fun, absolutely, and there's absolutely nothing wrong or underhanded about it. but as a main stream strategy, no, its just too far off from what you want to do as an experienced coach, it builds too many bad habits, for not enough gain"

Sorry, was out of town. My fault for taking your original post out of context. I had read it as "fun/cute way to play but not to be used if you want to be taken seriously." I personally stack classes on one of my teams just to get a break from recruiting in that world even though I know its not as effective for consistent success. More than one way to play is a cool aspect of this game so just didn't want to discourage anyone from exploring.

no worries at all! i personally enjoy the off-seasons of recruiting, too, i used to really work to get those. i just assume most people are here to actually play the game, and lack my cynicism... hopefully!

it would be stunning hypocrisy for someone like me to look down on a gimmick user... what's the line between standard min/maxing or strategy, gimmicks, glitches, and hacks... that's the gray area where all the fun is! luckily for you guys, i report the REALLY broken stuff, and stay my hand where it counts. but yeah. absolutely no condescension from me on this one.

how about the classic 5-5-1-1 D2/D3 Cali press structure. But you recruit 4 JUCOs and 1 FR every year to maintain it.

I would say 6-0-6-0 makes sense at D2/D3. Just too hard to get 6 good guys in D1, every good player is a battle. And then throw in EEs and basically there is no real plan in D1.

Basically, you lose a recruit on the last day and take a walk on and then you have an early entry and your 6 / 0 becomes 4 / 2 just like that.

As I said, you can do that in D2/D3. There are much less battles and you should be able to stick to plan.