Posted by jhunterz on 3/14/2026 11:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachSpud on 3/14/2026 2:26:00 PM (view original):
General:
When it comes to recruiting, historically winning programs earn an advantage over historically non-winning programs; that is customarily called “prestige.” We know that exists, and it is reasonable that it should. It simulates real life and arguably has a positive effect on game play.

The question is this: are you ever going to get rid of “vision” altogether? (1) It is redundant of prestige, and therefore completely unnecessary. (2) Within each division except D1A, it reserves generally better-quality recruits for privileged teams by presenting an absolute, rigid and unnuanced recruiting prohibition against some teams but not others in the same division. This is arbitrary, unfair, and unrealistic. There is no real-life counterpart, nothing even remotely similar. (3) In that it artificially favors some teams over others, it generates an artificial disparity between teams that is harmful to game play.

In short, vision damages the game while adding nothing positive to it.

The way I understand it, prestige is only built into D1A. All the lower divisions have "Vision". Prestige is built into the game while Vision is earned! Any team can gain vision by improving their team each season, which is not unfair or unrealistic. The better a team becomes (wins vs losses) the more recruits or even better the recruits that would be willing to come to that team. That to me is a direct reflection of college football, well before NIL ruined it.

Okay, I don't really care what you label it. The point is that prestige as I described it, based on wins at all levels (ie. earned), and that component of vision that works the same as prestige, are fine for the game. The arbitrary absolute fracture of a smooth recruiting process based on, well, on nothing really, is the cancer that needs to be excised.

How big of a role does formation IQ really play?

Posted by muckraker on 3/15/2026 4:23:00 PM (view original):
How big of a role does formation IQ really play?

Big Role for QB's. Somehow their form iq is compared to the defense and is a determining factor in interceptions and "possably" completions.
It may also play role in other things like will this lb make the tackle ? or others but this is far less clear.

Posted by CoachSpud on 3/15/2026 11:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by jhunterz on 3/14/2026 11:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachSpud on 3/14/2026 2:26:00 PM (view original):
General:
When it comes to recruiting, historically winning programs earn an advantage over historically non-winning programs; that is customarily called “prestige.” We know that exists, and it is reasonable that it should. It simulates real life and arguably has a positive effect on game play.

The question is this: are you ever going to get rid of “vision” altogether? (1) It is redundant of prestige, and therefore completely unnecessary. (2) Within each division except D1A, it reserves generally better-quality recruits for privileged teams by presenting an absolute, rigid and unnuanced recruiting prohibition against some teams but not others in the same division. This is arbitrary, unfair, and unrealistic. There is no real-life counterpart, nothing even remotely similar. (3) In that it artificially favors some teams over others, it generates an artificial disparity between teams that is harmful to game play.

In short, vision damages the game while adding nothing positive to it.

The way I understand it, prestige is only built into D1A. All the lower divisions have "Vision". Prestige is built into the game while Vision is earned! Any team can gain vision by improving their team each season, which is not unfair or unrealistic. The better a team becomes (wins vs losses) the more recruits or even better the recruits that would be willing to come to that team. That to me is a direct reflection of college football, well before NIL ruined it.

Okay, I don't really care what you label it. The point is that prestige as I described it, based on wins at all levels (ie. earned), and that component of vision that works the same as prestige, are fine for the game. The arbitrary absolute fracture of a smooth recruiting process based on, well, on nothing really, is the cancer that needs to be excised.

The problem is that you have Prestige and Vision as being the same or Vision actually being a "component" of Prestige, of which it is not. Prestige and Vision are completely different in this game. As I stated, Prestige only exists at the 1A level and is automatically built into the game with elites having a bonus over everyone, Power 5 having bonus over mid majors. All 1A teams can see all the recruits, there is no Vision bonus. At the lower levels there is ONLY Vision! No team 1AA and lower has a Prestige bonus in recruiting over another team built into the game. There is only the Vision in recruiting which is determined by the teams win loss record. The better you do the better your Vision becomes until you plateau. Vision is a bonus that can easily be overcome by any coach, however Prestige at 1A cannot be overcome by a coach. (No I am not saying that an elite cannot be out recruited, I am just saying that the built in Prestige cannot be changed by a coaches win loss record).