Posted by moy23 on 11/27/2011 1:40:00 AM (view original):
Posted by andru2797 on 11/27/2011 1:21:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 11/27/2011 1:07:00 AM (view original):
Hawks fans don't value individual awards. Ovie has 3x the medals in his trophy case but Toews is better in their opinion.
Not better...different. Ovie has more natural ability than Toews, and if this was Tennis I'd take the Great 8 all day. But this is a team sport, and there are few team players who are the leader that Toews is.
As for Giroux, he's had one season of 76 points, the same career high (in points) as Toews, never scored over 25 in a season and hasn't won a thing, team or individual. So in saying you would take Giroux over Toews, you are in fact basing it on nothing more than opinion based on what you've seen, therefor making it a SUBJECTIVE decision, for which I can't fault you. HOWEVER, it would be slightly hypocritical to then criticize Hawks fans for doing the same in the Toews-Ovie (or Sedin, or Giroux, etc) argument.
Speaking of opinion.... How's frolik doing this season?
In my subjective opinion Giroux has more upside than Toews. On a more factual basis Ovie has 2 MVPs , which stands for'most valuable player'. How many does Toews have?
Fro is doing terrible offensively, although not for lack of chances. He's getting them, but not burying them, and I cant for the life of me figure out why. He's going to the tough areas, playing all 3 zones well and doing all the little things right. Weird how sometimes guys simply don't get rewarded.
As for the MVPs, by my count Ovie has 2 MVPs when it doesn't matter, and Toews has 1 when it matters most :-P