Posted by dino27 on 2/7/2018 12:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 2/7/2018 12:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/6/2018 11:45:00 PM (view original):
Until the Dems apologize for allowing the Palestinian flag at the DNC they will never get my vote again. Disgraceful.

its a free country, dude. If someone wants to fly a Palestinian flag somewhere, that person is allowed to. You and I don't have to like it, but freedom is what this country is about. Freedom to fly whatever flag you want, freedom to practice (or not practice)whatever religion you want, freedom to peacefully protest whatever you feel is worthy of protest. That means other people have the freedom to do things you or I may not like or understand.
Oh, and by the way, most people here would probably consider me on the left or a liberal. I do not hate Israel. I support pretty much most of what they do(not all of it). They are in a tenuous position. Most of the people around their country would like to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth (not all of them, but I feel comfortable saying most of them).

i agree fully with you about democracy.......rage...rage ...rage against the darkness....do not go gently into the night.......maybe i am overly optimistic but i really do not think that most of the world want israel exterminated...certainly not asia.......not nato countries or eropean nations and many south american and african nations are important and loyal trading partners with israel.......however many countries do take the side of the palestinians in the dispute.

I did not say most of the world, I said most of the people surrounding Israel. Big difference.

Posted by wylie715 on 2/7/2018 2:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/7/2018 1:31:00 PM (view original):
But Israel's flag is not welcome there. Palestine is a terror state.

How do you know? Did you try to get into the DNC with an Israeli flag?

No but others did and were turned away

Posted by wylie715 on 2/7/2018 2:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 2/7/2018 12:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 2/7/2018 12:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/6/2018 11:45:00 PM (view original):
Until the Dems apologize for allowing the Palestinian flag at the DNC they will never get my vote again. Disgraceful.

its a free country, dude. If someone wants to fly a Palestinian flag somewhere, that person is allowed to. You and I don't have to like it, but freedom is what this country is about. Freedom to fly whatever flag you want, freedom to practice (or not practice)whatever religion you want, freedom to peacefully protest whatever you feel is worthy of protest. That means other people have the freedom to do things you or I may not like or understand.
Oh, and by the way, most people here would probably consider me on the left or a liberal. I do not hate Israel. I support pretty much most of what they do(not all of it). They are in a tenuous position. Most of the people around their country would like to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth (not all of them, but I feel comfortable saying most of them).

i agree fully with you about democracy.......rage...rage ...rage against the darkness....do not go gently into the night.......maybe i am overly optimistic but i really do not think that most of the world want israel exterminated...certainly not asia.......not nato countries or eropean nations and many south american and african nations are important and loyal trading partners with israel.......however many countries do take the side of the palestinians in the dispute.

I did not say most of the world, I said most of the people surrounding Israel. Big difference.

you are right..i read too fast.

most jews are democrats and we are very comfortable with the party's protection of Israel.....we are not threatened by a few college kids raising a palestinian flag....and i do not agree that the palestinian territories are a terror state.
and no one is more loyal to Israel then i am.....

.the kids that brought in the palestinian flag did it surreptitiously......and again who cares......it wasnt dnc sponsored......dems have done the most for israel.....start with truman......ike was good...suez......carter..egypt....oslo under clinton.........got arafat to renounce terrorism.......civility maintained under obama....he stopped the iranian nuke program....there is divisivness again...the palestinians hate trump......no peace process in sight.

Posted by dino27 on 2/7/2018 4:27:00 PM (view original):
most jews are democrats and we are very comfortable with the party's protection of Israel.....we are not threatened by a few college kids raising a palestinian flag....and i do not agree that the palestinian territories are a terror state.
and no one is more loyal to Israel then i am.....

Proof? I know plenty of Jews who think the way I do. I am not threatened. I am annoyed. And it is a terror state. 100%.

I know plenty of people who think the earth is flat. Doesn't mean it is.

Posted by wylie715 on 2/7/2018 5:54:00 PM (view original):
I know plenty of people who think the earth is flat. Doesn't mean it is.

it is a waste to challenge facts...look up any polling data.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-gop-became-a-pro-israel-party/

It will change. My parents were huge Dems too. Party betrayed them. At least that is how they feel. I just feel the party has changed and we no longer share the same values.

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/7/2018 6:49:00 PM (view original):
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-gop-became-a-pro-israel-party/

It will change. My parents were huge Dems too. Party betrayed them. At least that is how they feel. I just feel the party has changed and we no longer share the same values.

If you prioritize being 100% pro Israel, then the GOP is the party for you. I happen to prioritize other things. To each his own.

Posted by dino27 on 2/7/2018 6:19:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 2/7/2018 5:54:00 PM (view original):
I know plenty of people who think the earth is flat. Doesn't mean it is.

it is a waste to challenge facts...look up any polling data.

what?

Interesting article from the March issue of The Atlantic:

Boycott the Republican Party

Posted by tangplay on 2/7/2018 6:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/7/2018 6:49:00 PM (view original):
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-gop-became-a-pro-israel-party/

It will change. My parents were huge Dems too. Party betrayed them. At least that is how they feel. I just feel the party has changed and we no longer share the same values.

If you prioritize being 100% pro Israel, then the GOP is the party for you. I happen to prioritize other things. To each his own.

This may have been your first intelligent and coherent post. Thank you.

You just hit the nail on the head.

Posted by tangplay on 2/7/2018 6:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/7/2018 6:49:00 PM (view original):
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-gop-became-a-pro-israel-party/

It will change. My parents were huge Dems too. Party betrayed them. At least that is how they feel. I just feel the party has changed and we no longer share the same values.

If you prioritize being 100% pro Israel, then the GOP is the party for you. I happen to prioritize other things. To each his own.

when has the gop ever accomplished anything in the middle east except the iraq war....
israel needs people who dont believe that they are pawns for the end of days...thats the gop.
ill take the rational dems any day.

btw...does cccp stand for russian ice cream ?