Hey Holer , I hope you are kicking the sh!t out of that cancer and come back stronger than ever and help me with my grammar!   stay strong !

Andru - saw you post on HB - Weber absolutely won't be a Hawk.  They don't have enough of the offensive depth that Nashville would require in return.  I'm also not so sure SB has the balls to make the move for a big time player entering his prime like Weber... they don't come cheap.  jmo. 


As a side - it was nice to see the hawks play a top 15 team for once ;)

they could definitely make a deal considering their cap room you are right about that... but not for a calibur player like weber without giving up a core player... they dont have the offensive parts. Nash is looking for nhl offense... morin and saad are hardly that. Would you take that deal for weber if you were nash's gm and i guarantee about 10 other teams have offers out there as well... that match nash's team needs. Juss saying ;)

I personally wouldnt. A deal with philly would include jvr from what ive read.

Yeah. I forgot the 'without a contract' part. I think he is still rfa status though.... but i get your point. Theyd have a decent shot at iggy i would think. On the other hand i think hawks fans overvalue their prospects... i dont see any top 3 projected forwards in their system, or top pairing dmen... jmo.

they might have afew potential 2nd liners. Then again most of them are so young. None of them are killing it at the ahl level though.

Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2011 10:09:00 PM (view original):
they might have afew potential 2nd liners. Then again most of them are so young. None of them are killing it at the ahl level though.

Pirri is. He's having a nice season. AHL success doesn't necessarily translate into NHL success though.

If you ask me, here's how the Hawks prospects break down as of today:

Potential top 6 forwards: Saad, Pirri, McNeill
Checking line forwards with some scoring upside: Danault, Morin
Energy line players: Paradis
Unpredictables: Beach, Hayes bros., Rensfeldt

Top 4 defensemen: Dylan Olsen
3rd pairing defensemen or special teams specialists: Klas Dahlbeck, Shawn Lalonde, Stephen Johns, Justin Holl, Adam Clendening

Goaltender with best chance at steady NHL job (likely as backup): Johan Mattsson

All in all, I'd say they have one of the deepest groups in terms of players who have a realistic shot at the NHL at some point. Not a real high end player like a Jaden Schwartz, but lots of organizational depth, which is a hallmark of the Detroit model the Hawks are trying to build. The thing is because they won so soon, some people forget that that organizational "build" is really only 3-4 years old. They're well on their way to having a steady influx of decent NHL bodies. Now they just need to find the diamonds in the rough like the Red Wings have been so good at. I believe Brandon Saad was one of those.

Good assessment. A top 6 forward isnt neccessarily a top 3 forward. They have a deep farm system of nhl talent but lack top end projected nhl talent. I think we agree here.

Spector hockey is saying hawks look for 'rental' players at the deadline.... In particular a second line center.

Posted by moy23 on 12/5/2011 9:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by andru2797 on 12/5/2011 9:26:00 PM (view original):
It would seem that there is a new NHL goals leader...now, a player in that position has to be of "elite" quality, no? lol.

It would seem so.... can he finish the season like that.  Thats the question.  Last season he scored 1 goal in 13 games to wrap it up.  

the cream is rising to the top....

Giroux, Malkin, H Sedin are the 'legit' contenders for the hart trophy.


Hawks/Wings tonight... Hawks have struggled this season against teams in the top half of the league standings. This is a big test to wrap up 2011.