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Quote: Originally Posted By _nuke_ on 2/21/2008
I don't care about the bet itself.
You lose the argument.


Because you're a raging ***** who knows striking out 14 times guarantees **** poor run production but will stand behind the one example that proves your "point"?

I won this argument when I started asking you blowhards to put some money on your beliefs. Not one of you has stepped up to the plate to wager even $20. That is how you "win" an internet argument. Everyone is an expert until they have to back it up.
2/21/2008 3:20 PM
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You said it was guaranteed. "If 50% or more of the outs are strikeouts, a team will score less than the league average. Guranteed."

I showed you a team that did score more than league average. I win.
2/21/2008 3:25 PM
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Mike, not to point out the obvious, but they offered you bets you passed up on. I'm just saying...
2/21/2008 3:25 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/20/2008
Here's an exercise for you this year.
Look at the boxscores every day. Keep up on the runs scored by teams that strikeout 14+ times in a game(more than half their outs).
Let me know how many RPG they average. I'm willing to wager that it's less than the league average.
2/21/2008 3:26 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008
Quote: Originally Posted By _nuke_ on 2/21/2008

I don't care about the bet itself.
You lose the argument.



Because you're a raging ***** who knows striking out 14 times guarantees **** poor run production but will stand behind the one example that proves your "point"?

I won this argument when I started asking you blowhards to put some money on your beliefs. Not one of you has stepped up to the plate to wager even $20. That is how you "win" an internet argument. Everyone is an expert until they have to back it up.
2/21/2008 3:26 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/20/2008

Here's an exercise for you this year.
Look at the boxscores every day. Keep up on the runs scored by teams that strikeout 14+ times in a game(more than half their outs).
Let me know how many RPG they average. I'm willing to wager that it's less than the league average.
2/21/2008 3:26 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/20/2008

Here's an exercise for you this year.
Look at the boxscores every day. Keep up on the runs scored by teams that strikeout 14+ times in a game(more than half their outs).
Let me know how many RPG they average. I'm willing to wager that it's less than the league average.
Now that you think it suits you, you want to talk about averages?

How about, on average, when a team strikes out more, it has NO effect on run scoring.

2/21/2008 3:27 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/20/2008

Here's an exercise for you this year.
Look at the boxscores every day. Keep up on the runs scored by teams that strikeout 4 or less times in a game.
Let me know how many RPG they average. I'm willing to wager that it's more than the league average.
For the Wang fans out there...
2/21/2008 3:27 PM
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Shall I start the RSF III thread now, or wait?
2/21/2008 3:28 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By deathinahole on 2/21/2008

Shall I start the RSF III thread now, or wait?
I'd wait - mike's not used to losing these, so I want to see how long he can keep it going without admitting he's wrong. 77 pages is a lot - even for mike.
2/21/2008 3:29 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By hartjh14 on 2/21/2008
Mike, not to point out the obvious, but they offered you bets you passed up on. I'm just saying...
2/21/2008 3:30 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008

Quote: Originally Posted By _nuke_ on 2/21/2008

I don't care about the bet itself.
You lose the argument.



Because you're a raging ***** who knows striking out 14 times guarantees **** poor run production but will stand behind the one example that proves your "point"?

I won this argument when I started asking you blowhards to put some money on your beliefs. Not one of you has stepped up to the plate to wager even $20. That is how you "win" an internet argument. Everyone is an expert until they have to back it up.
Wait.... who is the one hiding behind the one example which they thinks supports their point?

You say it's NOT the guy who wants to consider ONLY the results from games where a team strikes out 14+ times?

Continued laughable, with gusts up to retarded.
2/21/2008 3:46 PM
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You're dumbasses on both sides.
One side for basing their argument on one stat, one game. Dumbass.
The other just because they are.
As usual, I'm doing no heavy lifting. Someone will do it for me. But, if you want to prove/disprove a correlation without that article that billy seems to circle jerk over, go to MLB.com, grab a few years (namely, at least 20) worth of stats, rank teams' hitting stats by Ks and runs scored. If there's a close 1 to 1 relationship (ie. generally top 10 in Ks = bottom 10 in runs scored, and vice versa), then there is an argument for Ks being a detriment to runs scored and everyone should STFU.
If there is no relationship, then start making relationships with other stats to find out why (high BBs? high SLG? etc). Then everyone STFU.
Either way, everyone SsTFU, and I'm happy.
2/21/2008 3:54 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By deathinahole on 2/21/2008

WAAAAH! I DON'T LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE INTERNET!! WAAAAAH!!
So don't read it, dumbass.
In other news: shocked to read that you don't think basing everything on just the 14+ K games is valid. shocked.
2/21/2008 3:57 PM
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death - it's been done.
Teams that score the most runs have K numbers all over the board. There is no relationship.
The teams that score the most runs tend to have the highest OBP.
2/21/2008 3:57 PM
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