Another Tragedy Caused by an Armed Citizen Topic

Posted by creilmann on 2/15/2011 7:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 2/15/2011 7:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by creilmann on 2/15/2011 7:10:00 PM (view original):
Why dont you try to address an issue, instead of just screaming that the other person is wrong in an increasing louder voice. The fact that you dont "Feel" that my story is right isnt exactly a basis of an argument.


Why don't you try heeding your own advice.

Do you just have stock answers to my posts that you can spurt out without having to read anything I say?

Yes, I do.  I've tried arguing with you too many times to think that anything you post deserves more than that.
Funny thing is that Wikipedia even provides citations.  All you have to do is click the link.
2/15/2011 7:57 PM
Even funnier is that the link in question takes you not to an article, but an advertisement for a book.
2/15/2011 8:24 PM
Lets all take a step back and review....

As I said I remember hearing about this story about the civilians. It was a story I heard and told.

I have 3 different, unrelated sources (no matter what you may think of them) that remember the story the same way I do.

The Time story does imply no civilian activity, but it never really states that. Of course you wouldnt mention something that didnt happen. It doesnt say that no space aliens were involved.

Again I believe the story I remember. I have looked for stories about it, and cannot really find any. Everything I find lists deaths and names the 2 people who got him. Short stuff.

I will look for books on the subject.
2/16/2011 4:37 AM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 2/16/2011 4:37:00 AM (view original):
Lets all take a step back and review....

As I said I remember hearing about this story about the civilians. It was a story I heard and told.

I have 3 different, unrelated sources (no matter what you may think of them) that remember the story the same way I do.

The Time story does imply no civilian activity, but it never really states that. Of course you wouldnt mention something that didnt happen. It doesnt say that no space aliens were involved.

Again I believe the story I remember. I have looked for stories about it, and cannot really find any. Everything I find lists deaths and names the 2 people who got him. Short stuff.

I will look for books on the subject.
 No space aliens were involved?
Are you sure!?
What if they're children of the space aliens and were born on earth, plus had invisible powers?
Surely this would mean that not mentioning means they don't exist!
2/16/2011 6:12 AM
Hehe.  I found that source also, swamp. 

I had about a half hour last night and found at least a dozen sources.   All of them, seemingly, have a different version of the story.    Here's a news special from the time on youtube:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAET3gFy5E8   I think it confirmed there were deputized citizens with deer rifles.

I found another where Martinez claimed he was almost shot by citizens on the ground.   I found several that mentioned Crum(ex-military, head of security) as the only citizen involved. He was deputized by Martinez.  I also found a couple that said Whitman was an ex-sniper in the military and that he was using a military sniper rifle(which is what I recalled). 

I think, at the end of the day, there were probably several versions of the shooting.   Almost 45 years later, it's probably impossible to know exactly what happened.  FWIW, the news clip I linked shows plenty of people hiding but none are holding rifles.  However, there were shots being fired from the ground pretty frequently.  Could be cops, could be citizens. 
2/16/2011 8:30 AM
Anyway, using an instance from 1966 where armed citizens may or may not have been helpful is pretty silly if you think about it.   This isn't 1966.   A SWAT team would roll in today and have citizens firing guns arrested while they went about their job.    And, in end, it was a cop that took down the psycho.   No reason to think some armed teacher takes down the crazy in a school.
2/16/2011 3:37 PM
Quote post by MikeT23 on 2/16/2011 3:37:00 PM:
A SWAT team would roll in today and have citizens firing guns arrested while they went about their job……No reason to think some armed teacher takes down the crazy in a school.
 
Unless you’d like to be able to shorten the span of the spree.
 
In the Columbine case, it took SWAT 20 minutes to arrive. The 2 assailants were done and had shot themselves by that time. An armed faculty member might have ended it before the boys decided they had enough on their own.
 
I would sure hate to have to just sit and wait for 20 minutes, hoping I get through this without being shot.
2/16/2011 7:30 PM
Another ******* that wants to play wild west in our schools! I am sick and tired of you latter day Earp Bros. and your need to stroke your penises in public!
2/16/2011 7:56 PM
Quote post by rcrusso on 1/29/2011 2:15:00 AM:
"Take that gun and stick it up your *** and pull the trigger"
 
Quote post by rcrusso on 2/8/2011 5:20:00 PM:
American Values? What a crock of red neck crap! Texas should have never been allowed to become a state! And the last I heard they wanted to pull out of the union and I say GOOD F'n RIDENCE!

Quote post by rcrusso on 2/13/2011 6:44:00 PM:
What a fantasy world swamp lives in! The only civilians involved were the victims!
 
Quote post by rcrusso on 2/16/2011 7:57:00 PM:
Another ******* that wants to play wild west in our schools! I am sick and tired of you latter day Earp Bros. and your need to stroke your penises in public!


2/16/2011 8:26 PM
lol, reminds me of the gilligan's island theme:

like robinson crusso
primitive as can be...
2/16/2011 9:36 PM
Was there a point to that?
2/16/2011 10:25 PM
Posted by meanceprimea on 2/16/2011 8:27:00 PM (view original):
Quote post by rcrusso on 1/29/2011 2:15:00 AM:
"Take that gun and stick it up your *** and pull the trigger"
 
Quote post by rcrusso on 2/8/2011 5:20:00 PM:
American Values? What a crock of red neck crap! Texas should have never been allowed to become a state! And the last I heard they wanted to pull out of the union and I say GOOD F'n RIDENCE!

Quote post by rcrusso on 2/13/2011 6:44:00 PM:
What a fantasy world swamp lives in! The only civilians involved were the victims!
 
Quote post by rcrusso on 2/16/2011 7:57:00 PM:
Another ******* that wants to play wild west in our schools! I am sick and tired of you latter day Earp Bros. and your need to stroke your penises in public!


Thank you for documenting the tirades of the left.

I hope they stop spewing that kind of hate so we dont have another tragedy like Tucson!
2/17/2011 4:54 AM
Posted by winnerpeg on 2/16/2011 6:12:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 2/16/2011 4:37:00 AM (view original):
Lets all take a step back and review....

As I said I remember hearing about this story about the civilians. It was a story I heard and told.

I have 3 different, unrelated sources (no matter what you may think of them) that remember the story the same way I do.

The Time story does imply no civilian activity, but it never really states that. Of course you wouldnt mention something that didnt happen. It doesnt say that no space aliens were involved.

Again I believe the story I remember. I have looked for stories about it, and cannot really find any. Everything I find lists deaths and names the 2 people who got him. Short stuff.

I will look for books on the subject.
 No space aliens were involved?
Are you sure!?
What if they're children of the space aliens and were born on earth, plus had invisible powers?
Surely this would mean that not mentioning means they don't exist!
I knew that some of the 'Gentlemen" on this sight would jump on me if I said something wasnt mentioned and wanted to show that I always strive to be fair and balanced.

I wanted to keep it light so I went space Aliens.

We all know there can be no space aliens because the Van Allen radiation belt would kill anyone passing through it.
2/17/2011 6:37 AM
Posted by rcrusso on 2/16/2011 10:25:00 PM (view original):
Was there a point to that?
When you see something you don't like, instead of replying intelligently, you just spit our very vulgar and hateful garbage.

You are a teacher? That is scarry. A person with such limited intellectual capability combined with anger issues.
 
Glad you aren't in my son's district.
2/17/2011 8:10 AM
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