Allegations Topic

Posted by cccp1014 on 10/3/2018 10:03:00 PM (view original):
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I HATE flying. Scares the crap out of me. I've flown at least 20 times this year, including helicopter rides over LA and Vegas. That's one of the dumbest reasons to infer someone is lying I've ever heard. I realize it was just a GOP talking point, but it's dumb as ****.
That argument lasts UNTIL you say you don't want to fly to WASHINGTON for a hearing. AND SO you have to come to me because I hate flying so much.

EXCEPT it turns out she flys around ALL OVER THE WORLD and with her ex-boyfriend who calls her a LIAR and then she says she didn't know she had to FLY out to Washington. SOMEBODY IS LYING!

WHO is it? FORD or the DEMS and the LAWYERS they paid for and forced on her? WHO'S LYING?
I cannot follow the counter logic. I just came to a serious reality.
This argument confuses me. She flew to Washington, right? What is the point? She was terrified of testifying, as she said. Why did she do it? It was her civic duty. That's not a contradiction, that's prioritizing the country over yourself. Can someone who isn't blocked please explain this?
10/3/2018 11:15 PM
Posted by DougOut on 10/3/2018 6:58:00 PM (view original):
Also...whatever happened to that Russian thing?
Mueller is enjoying the peace and quiet i bet

getting some work done i like to think
10/4/2018 1:41 AM
Posted by tangplay on 10/3/2018 11:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/3/2018 10:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DougOut on 10/3/2018 9:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 10/3/2018 9:07:00 PM (view original):
I HATE flying. Scares the crap out of me. I've flown at least 20 times this year, including helicopter rides over LA and Vegas. That's one of the dumbest reasons to infer someone is lying I've ever heard. I realize it was just a GOP talking point, but it's dumb as ****.
That argument lasts UNTIL you say you don't want to fly to WASHINGTON for a hearing. AND SO you have to come to me because I hate flying so much.

EXCEPT it turns out she flys around ALL OVER THE WORLD and with her ex-boyfriend who calls her a LIAR and then she says she didn't know she had to FLY out to Washington. SOMEBODY IS LYING!

WHO is it? FORD or the DEMS and the LAWYERS they paid for and forced on her? WHO'S LYING?
I cannot follow the counter logic. I just came to a serious reality.
This argument confuses me. She flew to Washington, right? What is the point? She was terrified of testifying, as she said. Why did she do it? It was her civic duty. That's not a contradiction, that's prioritizing the country over yourself. Can someone who isn't blocked please explain this?
#1) The 2nd door story was BS. It was put there to create a separate entrance and the space was used as an office and later apartment (rental). It was built in 2008. Ford said she didn't tell her husband about any abuse until 2012.

#2) Fear of flying when there is not any goes to credibility.

#3) All the witnesses she presented, none can corroborate her story.

#4) She said she NEVER gave guidance to anyone how to take a lie detector test. The letter (provided under oath) by her ex boyfriend states otherwise. This means she lied under oath.

#5) Her memory lapses are inconsistent. She has not recollection of how she got to or from the alleged party. She cannot even recall where it was. Ask about my wedding. It was 15 yrs ago and I can give step by step descriptions. I was in an auto accident about a year later. Major one. I can give step by step descriptions. She seems to remember what she wants to remember. The friend she said took her to that alleged party cannot even corroborate this story. She was 15. Someone had to drive her there and back.

#6) The therapist notes do not match the story at all.

#7) The timing was awfully convenient.

To me she is not remotely credible.

All that being said I don't know if Kav should be on the SC. I believe that court needs more left leaning judges but the characater assassination by the Left on this man and his family is unforgivable.
10/4/2018 8:51 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/3/2018 2:06:00 PM (view original):
What would you suggest a mayor/city counsel do about policing?
Ummm...have more of it! A lot more. Don't worry about streotyping or alleged assaults. Start cleaning up the cities.
Is it proven that a greater police presence in the inner cities leads to less crime/fear in the people?

Haven't we tried this before? It's not as simple as 'more cops'.
In NYC under Rudy and it worked.
Link to source please?
Look it up. WTF? You always ask. I always provide and then we do it all over again. This is pointless.

F*CK ALL OF YOU.

I just provided a link that showed crime is lower now than it was under Rudy.
http://www.nber.org/digest/jan03/w9061.html

WTF?!?!?!

I've had it Jeff. I have been on these boards 4ever. I don't lie or dodge questions. I am not putting up with ******** always looking for proof. Either you believe me or you don't. Period.

During the 1990s, crime rates in New York City dropped dramatically, even more than in the United States as a whole. Violent crime declined by more than 56 percent in the City, compared to about 28 percent in the nation as whole. Property crimes tumbled by about 65 percent, but fell only 26 percent nationally.

Many attribute New York's crime reduction to specific "get-tough" policies carried out by former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's administration. The most prominent of his policy changes was the aggressive policing of lower-level crimes, a policy which has been dubbed the "broken windows" approach to law enforcement. In this view, small disorders lead to larger ones and perhaps even to crime. As Mr. Guiliani told the press in 1998, "Obviously murder and graffiti are two vastly different crimes. But they are part of the same continuum, and a climate that tolerates one is more likely to tolerate the other."

I used Rudy as an example of what works and what should be done in Chicago, Oakland, etc. More policing not less. But that was not even the point of the discussion. Crime is just one of the factors.

People are going to tend not to believe you because you're dumb.
Better dumb than a liar aka you. And let's be honest bad luck, 99% of the posters here think you're as dumb as a bag of rocks. Hell there is a thread dedicated to your dumbassery.

Congrats. Loser.
There's about 33 accounts that have posted on here. Even if it were 32/33, that's 97%, not 99%.
On here...have you gone to the MLB boards? There are more people there that think he is a moron. Don't be so literal.
10/4/2018 8:52 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 10/3/2018 8:38:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/3/2018 7:48:00 PM (view original):
I do know he can't lose that gig. he's appointed for life. Absent an impeachment, he's fine. And impeaching a federal judge is damn near impossible.

His reputation is certainly harmed. But that is probably correct. Ford seems credible (even Trump said so). If Kavanaugh did what she says he did, he deserves to lose his reputation.

I don't know the answer to your specific question. I don't believe that races are inherently better or worse at things than other races. The explanation for blacks in the NBA probably has more to do with the sports they played (or didn't play) growing up.
But he can. Why can he not be impeached?

She sounded compelling but not necessarily credible. Now her case is falling apart. From the double doors, to the fake witnesses, to the lie about coaching others on how to take a lie detector test. I was 50/50 before. Now I am 95/5 that she is not credible. She got rich from this but it is fishy at best. If he were a single guy I'd shrug but his wife and kids don't deserve this. And many on the left call him "rapist"...which is not even alleged. This is not a job interview. It is a character assassination.

I have played and coached for a combined 30+ yrs. They are better. Hence the movie...white men can't jump.
Impeachment requires 2/3 majority in Senate, just like the President. That will never happen.

She sounded credible and nothing is falling apart.

“They?”
Have you not been following the news:
  • 2nd door was built in 2008 for the income property (separate entrance). Not in 2012.
  • Ford flew all the time (was never afraid to fly)
  • None of the witnesses have corroborated this
  • Said the incident defined her life but she told no one for 30 yrs
  • Therapist notes don't corroborate her story
  • She said she never coached anyone how to take a lie detector test but that is not true
  • She cannot name a time or place this happened.
Too many holes to ruin a life.
What does the 2nd door have to do with what happened in 1982?

Plenty of people are afraid to fly but do so anyway for work or vacation.

As was explained, since no one else was assaulted, the party doesn’t stand out to them.

It’s really common for for sexual assault victims to keep their assault a secret.

Have you seen the therapist notes?

She hasn’t coached anyone on a polygraph.

She gave a month/year and a general area.
#1) You're an idiot. She said she needed that door because she was scared of the attack and had it put in, in 2012 when she told her husband.

#2) She did it all the time in copter tours in HI

#3) So why did she name them at all? Even the people who brought here there can't recall.

You're a moron.
1) I’m pretty sure she said the fight over the doors put them in therapy.

2) Sure. And?

3) She named the people that were there. If it were some sort of conspiracy, wouldn’t she have included them in on the conspiracy?
#1) NO...she said she had em put in, in 2012 and that was the final straw that caused them to go to therapy.

#2) So she was not afraid to fly. Goes to credibility.

#3) Yeah and the people say there were not there. Do we believe one person or 5?

WTF?
10/4/2018 8:53 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/3/2018 7:48:00 PM (view original):
I do know he can't lose that gig. he's appointed for life. Absent an impeachment, he's fine. And impeaching a federal judge is damn near impossible.

His reputation is certainly harmed. But that is probably correct. Ford seems credible (even Trump said so). If Kavanaugh did what she says he did, he deserves to lose his reputation.

I don't know the answer to your specific question. I don't believe that races are inherently better or worse at things than other races. The explanation for blacks in the NBA probably has more to do with the sports they played (or didn't play) growing up.
But he can. Why can he not be impeached?

She sounded compelling but not necessarily credible. Now her case is falling apart. From the double doors, to the fake witnesses, to the lie about coaching others on how to take a lie detector test. I was 50/50 before. Now I am 95/5 that she is not credible. She got rich from this but it is fishy at best. If he were a single guy I'd shrug but his wife and kids don't deserve this. And many on the left call him "rapist"...which is not even alleged. This is not a job interview. It is a character assassination.

I have played and coached for a combined 30+ yrs. They are better. Hence the movie...white men can't jump.
Impeachment requires 2/3 majority in Senate, just like the President. That will never happen.

She sounded credible and nothing is falling apart.

“They?”
Have you not been following the news:
  • 2nd door was built in 2008 for the income property (separate entrance). Not in 2012.
  • Ford flew all the time (was never afraid to fly)
  • None of the witnesses have corroborated this
  • Said the incident defined her life but she told no one for 30 yrs
  • Therapist notes don't corroborate her story
  • She said she never coached anyone how to take a lie detector test but that is not true
  • She cannot name a time or place this happened.
Too many holes to ruin a life.
What does the 2nd door have to do with what happened in 1982?

Plenty of people are afraid to fly but do so anyway for work or vacation.

As was explained, since no one else was assaulted, the party doesn’t stand out to them.

It’s really common for for sexual assault victims to keep their assault a secret.

Have you seen the therapist notes?

She hasn’t coached anyone on a polygraph.

She gave a month/year and a general area.
#1) You're an idiot. She said she needed that door because she was scared of the attack and had it put in, in 2012 when she told her husband.

#2) She did it all the time in copter tours in HI

#3) So why did she name them at all? Even the people who brought here there can't recall.

You're a moron.
1) I’m pretty sure she said the fight over the doors put them in therapy.

2) Sure. And?

3) She named the people that were there. If it were some sort of conspiracy, wouldn’t she have included them in on the conspiracy?
So she waited 4 yrs to go to therapy?
You didn’t answer my question. If it’s a conspiracy, wouldn’t the friends have been looped in?

And broadening that question, if this were some sort of political ploy, all these things would be tied up nice and neat, right? There would be no fog around the memory. No uncertainty around whether the doors were put in in 2008 or 2012.

But it isn’t a ploy. It’s real. And with reality comes inconsistencies.
You didn’t answer the question.
10/4/2018 9:06 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/3/2018 7:48:00 PM (view original):
I do know he can't lose that gig. he's appointed for life. Absent an impeachment, he's fine. And impeaching a federal judge is damn near impossible.

His reputation is certainly harmed. But that is probably correct. Ford seems credible (even Trump said so). If Kavanaugh did what she says he did, he deserves to lose his reputation.

I don't know the answer to your specific question. I don't believe that races are inherently better or worse at things than other races. The explanation for blacks in the NBA probably has more to do with the sports they played (or didn't play) growing up.
But he can. Why can he not be impeached?

She sounded compelling but not necessarily credible. Now her case is falling apart. From the double doors, to the fake witnesses, to the lie about coaching others on how to take a lie detector test. I was 50/50 before. Now I am 95/5 that she is not credible. She got rich from this but it is fishy at best. If he were a single guy I'd shrug but his wife and kids don't deserve this. And many on the left call him "rapist"...which is not even alleged. This is not a job interview. It is a character assassination.

I have played and coached for a combined 30+ yrs. They are better. Hence the movie...white men can't jump.
Impeachment requires 2/3 majority in Senate, just like the President. That will never happen.

She sounded credible and nothing is falling apart.

“They?”
Have you not been following the news:
  • 2nd door was built in 2008 for the income property (separate entrance). Not in 2012.
  • Ford flew all the time (was never afraid to fly)
  • None of the witnesses have corroborated this
  • Said the incident defined her life but she told no one for 30 yrs
  • Therapist notes don't corroborate her story
  • She said she never coached anyone how to take a lie detector test but that is not true
  • She cannot name a time or place this happened.
Too many holes to ruin a life.
What does the 2nd door have to do with what happened in 1982?

Plenty of people are afraid to fly but do so anyway for work or vacation.

As was explained, since no one else was assaulted, the party doesn’t stand out to them.

It’s really common for for sexual assault victims to keep their assault a secret.

Have you seen the therapist notes?

She hasn’t coached anyone on a polygraph.

She gave a month/year and a general area.
#1) You're an idiot. She said she needed that door because she was scared of the attack and had it put in, in 2012 when she told her husband.

#2) She did it all the time in copter tours in HI

#3) So why did she name them at all? Even the people who brought here there can't recall.

You're a moron.
1) I’m pretty sure she said the fight over the doors put them in therapy.

2) Sure. And?

3) She named the people that were there. If it were some sort of conspiracy, wouldn’t she have included them in on the conspiracy?
So she waited 4 yrs to go to therapy?
You didn’t answer my question. If it’s a conspiracy, wouldn’t the friends have been looped in?

And broadening that question, if this were some sort of political ploy, all these things would be tied up nice and neat, right? There would be no fog around the memory. No uncertainty around whether the doors were put in in 2008 or 2012.

But it isn’t a ploy. It’s real. And with reality comes inconsistencies.
You didn’t answer the question.
She is insane. It is not a conspiracy. Same with Swetnick. Insane.
10/4/2018 9:13 AM
Posted by DougOut on 10/3/2018 7:35:00 PM (view original):
You need to apologize to me then unblock me so I can destroy your pretzel logic and out debate and expose you. Again.
b_l prefers to block people yet still read and respond to every one of their posts. He thinks it's more efficient that way.
10/4/2018 9:23 AM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/3/2018 9:12:00 PM (view original):
Town records show the doors were put in 2008 not 2012. Goes to credibility of her fear. I only have a fear of rats.
I fear for the future of our Country, since people like b_l are allowed to walk around freely and unmedicated.
That's truly scarier than anything else I can think of, and more detrimental than even our 2-Party politics.
10/4/2018 9:26 AM
Posted by all3 on 10/4/2018 9:23:00 AM (view original):
Posted by DougOut on 10/3/2018 7:35:00 PM (view original):
You need to apologize to me then unblock me so I can destroy your pretzel logic and out debate and expose you. Again.
b_l prefers to block people yet still read and respond to every one of their posts. He thinks it's more efficient that way.
The irony almost hurts.
10/4/2018 9:43 AM
cccp: “She is insane. It is not a conspiracy. Same with Swetnick. Insane.”

Just when I think it’s REALLY going off the rails. It moves to the Autobahn.
10/4/2018 9:54 AM
Senator Ben Sasse comes out today and says he urged Trump to select someone else besides Kavanaugh because he wasnt sure the Senate would be able to handle a sexual assault investigation. In June.

Ford names Kavanaugh in letter to Congress about kavanaugh before he's the nominee.

kavanaugh's team has a letter signed by 65 female acquaintances refuting allegations the day after the allegations are made public.

Kavanaugh sent texts to former classmates trying to rally them to his cause before any of this came out. In June.

YEAH, this was all dropped on the nomination last minute. Lol

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/409821-sasse-i-encouraged-trump-to-pick-someone-instead-of-kavanaugh


use logic
10/4/2018 10:09 AM (edited)
You must respect the taint. On sports message boards as in real life.
10/4/2018 10:31 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/3/2018 7:48:00 PM (view original):
I do know he can't lose that gig. he's appointed for life. Absent an impeachment, he's fine. And impeaching a federal judge is damn near impossible.

His reputation is certainly harmed. But that is probably correct. Ford seems credible (even Trump said so). If Kavanaugh did what she says he did, he deserves to lose his reputation.

I don't know the answer to your specific question. I don't believe that races are inherently better or worse at things than other races. The explanation for blacks in the NBA probably has more to do with the sports they played (or didn't play) growing up.
But he can. Why can he not be impeached?

She sounded compelling but not necessarily credible. Now her case is falling apart. From the double doors, to the fake witnesses, to the lie about coaching others on how to take a lie detector test. I was 50/50 before. Now I am 95/5 that she is not credible. She got rich from this but it is fishy at best. If he were a single guy I'd shrug but his wife and kids don't deserve this. And many on the left call him "rapist"...which is not even alleged. This is not a job interview. It is a character assassination.

I have played and coached for a combined 30+ yrs. They are better. Hence the movie...white men can't jump.
Impeachment requires 2/3 majority in Senate, just like the President. That will never happen.

She sounded credible and nothing is falling apart.

“They?”
Have you not been following the news:
  • 2nd door was built in 2008 for the income property (separate entrance). Not in 2012.
  • Ford flew all the time (was never afraid to fly)
  • None of the witnesses have corroborated this
  • Said the incident defined her life but she told no one for 30 yrs
  • Therapist notes don't corroborate her story
  • She said she never coached anyone how to take a lie detector test but that is not true
  • She cannot name a time or place this happened.
Too many holes to ruin a life.
What does the 2nd door have to do with what happened in 1982?

Plenty of people are afraid to fly but do so anyway for work or vacation.

As was explained, since no one else was assaulted, the party doesn’t stand out to them.

It’s really common for for sexual assault victims to keep their assault a secret.

Have you seen the therapist notes?

She hasn’t coached anyone on a polygraph.

She gave a month/year and a general area.
#1) You're an idiot. She said she needed that door because she was scared of the attack and had it put in, in 2012 when she told her husband.

#2) She did it all the time in copter tours in HI

#3) So why did she name them at all? Even the people who brought here there can't recall.

You're a moron.
1) I’m pretty sure she said the fight over the doors put them in therapy.

2) Sure. And?

3) She named the people that were there. If it were some sort of conspiracy, wouldn’t she have included them in on the conspiracy?
So she waited 4 yrs to go to therapy?
You didn’t answer my question. If it’s a conspiracy, wouldn’t the friends have been looped in?

And broadening that question, if this were some sort of political ploy, all these things would be tied up nice and neat, right? There would be no fog around the memory. No uncertainty around whether the doors were put in in 2008 or 2012.

But it isn’t a ploy. It’s real. And with reality comes inconsistencies.
You didn’t answer the question.
She is insane. It is not a conspiracy. Same with Swetnick. Insane.
She comes across as perfectly sane and credible. Kavanaugh on the other hand...
10/4/2018 10:34 AM
Careful...if Kavanaugh reads that he might threaten to beat you up also.
10/4/2018 10:58 AM
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