Posted by strikeout26 on 2/20/2018 8:25:00 PM (view original):
Tang, you struggle with critical thinking. You have a difficult time looking deeper into stats. Lower funded schools are in poor areas. This is because poor areas contribute less local dollars. This is because fewer people are working and there are more single parents. Funding is not the cause of poorer academic performance. You have your correlations confused. I believe this is because believing that people make bad choices is inconvenient to you. If parents put more emphasis on their kids academic success, the quality of the textbook would be irrelevant.

Please start thinking critically.

I disagree. Lower funded schools are in poor areas because of property taxes, less valuable homes = less school funding. But where we disagree is why people fall into poverty. Looking at it as single parenthood is narrow minded. Only one of the possible reasons.

So where I grew up, there were 7 elementary schools in the same city. When we all merged for middle school, it was clear that kids who went to two schools had a distinct advantage - 90% of honors and sports kids were from those two schools. Those two schools were in the wealthy part of the town. Is that because parents cared more in that part of the town? Was it because they had more money and were able to work less hours and spend more time with their kid? Was it because they were genetically better?

When I was in 6th grade, our class (which had lots of kids who had bad upbringings and emotional trauma) was so bad that one of our teachers left in the middle of the year, so we had 3 classes worth of kids stuck in 2 classrooms. The school was too poor to hire a replacement. Was that irrelevant on the quality of my education?

I had a friend whose mother was a single parent. She worked a ton of hours, and worked during the morning and afternoon so my family had to drive my friend to school. That mother cared about her son, however she was in an abusive relationship and had to get a divorce. Was she lazy? Should she have been a better mother?

If your argument is that people make bad choices which can affect their place in life, then I agree. If your argument is that kids who grow up with one parent are statistically worse off, then I agree. If your argument is that parents putting more time into their kids means more academic success, then I agree. If your argument is that single parents are lazy, then I disagree. If you are saying that funding has no correlation with academic performance, then I disagree.

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/20/2018 8:50:00 PM (view original):
Tangplay is dumb. He sees that Jews thrive because we have strong family values and help one another and wealth is passed on from generation to generation. It is not the case in the African American community. Different cultures. Yet he still blames society. tangplay is so stupid it is comical. Very few Jews are single parents. 70% of African American kids have one parent. You do the math. Stop having kids unless you're married. Try that and see what happens.

in the history of african american culture the extended family system was at least as strong as the jewish family system because of more financial stress until the welfare system which was started with such good intentions by LBJ.....the jobbing of the system for reasons i dont want to get into here and the breakdown of their truly strong nuclear family was the price that was paid...i hope ccp you can see that the african american community has been repairing its family system in an ever increasing trajectory.
i could be wrong but i dont think 70 % is correct but if it is it is not one parent households..in all groups today people have babies without getting the marriage certificate and stay together.

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/20/2018 8:50:00 PM (view original):
Tangplay is dumb. He sees that Jews thrive because we have strong family values and help one another and wealth is passed on from generation to generation. It is not the case in the African American community. Different cultures. Yet he still blames society. tangplay is so stupid it is comical. Very few Jews are single parents. 70% of African American kids have one parent. You do the math. Stop having kids unless you're married. Try that and see what happens.

Let me ask you this: Is it easier to get into poverty, or get out?

I have shown that your method works when talking about not FALLING INTO poverty but right now we are talking about getting out of poverty. Two different things that need different solutions.

Posted by dino27 on 2/20/2018 9:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/20/2018 8:50:00 PM (view original):
Tangplay is dumb. He sees that Jews thrive because we have strong family values and help one another and wealth is passed on from generation to generation. It is not the case in the African American community. Different cultures. Yet he still blames society. tangplay is so stupid it is comical. Very few Jews are single parents. 70% of African American kids have one parent. You do the math. Stop having kids unless you're married. Try that and see what happens.

in the history of african american culture the extended family system was at least as strong as the jewish family system because of more financial stress until the welfare system which was started with such good intentions by LBJ.....the jobbing of the system for reasons i dont want to get into here and the breakdown of their truly strong nuclear family was the price that was paid...i hope ccp you can see that the african american community has been repairing its family system in an ever increasing trajectory.
i could be wrong but i dont think 70 % is correct but if it is it is not one parent households..in all groups today people have babies without getting the marriage certificate and stay together.

^Part of what I have been saying the whole time.

This is why the idea of redlining is important. Because even though the same practice does not exist today, the effects still do. It is much harder to get out of poverty than to get in. The core of my argument is that someone who is in poverty and in a poor neighborhood is at a systematic disadvantage. I am not attempting to make excuses for people, because in no way am I saying that people are successful or unsuccessful because of their skin color. It is simply a matter of advantage vs disadvantage, and one would have to be a loon to argue that black people are not at a disadvantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8raaT7SRx18

Jon Stewart is a ******* genius.

you are saying i should redline someone ?..i havnt been here for several hours..what happened.

tangplay is blaming society again for poverty. Poor people are just bad with money.

You will never get it, will you.

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/20/2018 10:06:00 PM (view original):
tangplay is blaming society again for poverty. Poor people are just bad with money.

poor people don't have any money to be bad with. They are poor.

Posted by dino27 on 2/20/2018 9:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/20/2018 8:50:00 PM (view original):
Tangplay is dumb. He sees that Jews thrive because we have strong family values and help one another and wealth is passed on from generation to generation. It is not the case in the African American community. Different cultures. Yet he still blames society. tangplay is so stupid it is comical. Very few Jews are single parents. 70% of African American kids have one parent. You do the math. Stop having kids unless you're married. Try that and see what happens.

in the history of african american culture the extended family system was at least as strong as the jewish family system because of more financial stress until the welfare system which was started with such good intentions by LBJ.....the jobbing of the system for reasons i dont want to get into here and the breakdown of their truly strong nuclear family was the price that was paid...i hope ccp you can see that the african american community has been repairing its family system in an ever increasing trajectory.
i could be wrong but i dont think 70 % is correct but if it is it is not one parent households..in all groups today people have babies without getting the marriage certificate and stay together.

In the 60s it was 20% and today it is 70%. I have listed these stats because dummy tangplay always wanted proof. Are we more racist now than we were in the 60s? I don't think so. In Europe Jews had their wealth taken from them and driven from place to place but the Jews who remain are pretty wealthy in Europe too. My point is don't have kids unless you are married or are rich and can support them. Try that and see what happens. 70% IS the correct statistic. If I left my wife with our two kids, then they would struggle too and they are white.

Posted by wylie715 on 2/20/2018 11:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/20/2018 10:06:00 PM (view original):
tangplay is blaming society again for poverty. Poor people are just bad with money.

poor people don't have any money to be bad with. They are poor.

Do you know any rich people who are bad with money? If you're poor you're bad with money.

1) Graduate High School
2) Get a job
3) Don't be a single parent

Follow those three rules and you won't be poor. Doesn't seem difficult to me.

Posted by tangplay on 2/20/2018 10:07:00 PM (view original):
You will never get it, will you.

I get that you are ignorant.

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/21/2018 9:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 2/20/2018 11:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/20/2018 10:06:00 PM (view original):
tangplay is blaming society again for poverty. Poor people are just bad with money.

poor people don't have any money to be bad with. They are poor.

Do you know any rich people who are bad with money? If you're poor you're bad with money.

1) Graduate High School
2) Get a job
3) Don't be a single parent

Follow those three rules and you won't be poor. Doesn't seem difficult to me.

I know people personally who do and are that and are still poor.

Posted by tangplay on 2/20/2018 9:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/20/2018 8:50:00 PM (view original):
Tangplay is dumb. He sees that Jews thrive because we have strong family values and help one another and wealth is passed on from generation to generation. It is not the case in the African American community. Different cultures. Yet he still blames society. tangplay is so stupid it is comical. Very few Jews are single parents. 70% of African American kids have one parent. You do the math. Stop having kids unless you're married. Try that and see what happens.

Let me ask you this: Is it easier to get into poverty, or get out?

I have shown that your method works when talking about not FALLING INTO poverty but right now we are talking about getting out of poverty. Two different things that need different solutions.

You mean when you're a single parent with three kids? You're F*CKED!!

You rely on Gov't support. BUT we can help the three kids not repeat the same cycle. Blame the person not the situation around them or identity politics.