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MikeT23
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The obvious reason for 50% is this:
You're getting the opportunity to score on what I think is good(contact) more than half the time if you don't take 50% strikeouts.
Duh.
Or, if it makes you feel better, we can only count the runs scored on whiffs vs. the league average for runs scored. Any takers?
2/21/2008 5:06 PM
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Or we could look at the relationship between strikeouts and runs. ALL strikeous and runs.
You know, the obvious one.
Or you can continue to ignore me because you know I'm right.
2/21/2008 5:07 PM
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But you believe that it's ALWAYS better to put the ball in play, right?
You used to.
Now it's only for 14 or more strikeouts in a game?
2/21/2008 5:08 PM
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Mike:
Are you arguing that teams who strikeout less score more runs?
2/21/2008 5:08 PM
MikeT23
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Quote: Originally Posted By _nuke_ on 2/21/2008
Or we could look at the relationship between strikeouts and runs. ALL strikeous and runs.
You know, the obvious one.
Or you can continue to ignore me because you know I'm right.


Sure. Here's the relationship between strikeouts and runs:

You don't score runs when you strikeout. You walk your no hittin' *** back to the dugout and hope the next player picks you up.

How's that?
2/21/2008 5:09 PM
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That's fine.
So are you arguing that teams who strikeout more score less runs?
2/21/2008 5:10 PM
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You know what I'm arguing. A player who strikes out has done NOTHING to help his team in that AB. I like players who do SOMETHING to help the team.
2/21/2008 5:11 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008

You know what I'm arguing. A player who strikes out has done NOTHING to help his team in that AB. I like players who do SOMETHING to help the team.
Helps the team how? By helping them score more runs?
2/21/2008 5:13 PM
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Yep. You know, not walking back to the dugout hoping his teammate does something to help the team score.
2/21/2008 5:14 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008

Yep. You know, not walking back to the dugout hoping his teammate does something to help the team score.
So, then... teams that strike out less probably score less runs, right?
2/21/2008 5:15 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008
Yep. You know, not walking back to the dugout hoping his teammate does something to help the team score.
So you're arguing that striking out less helps the team score more runs?

2/21/2008 5:15 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008
You know what I'm arguing. A player who strikes out has done NOTHING to help his team in that AB. I like players who do SOMETHING to help the team.
2/21/2008 5:16 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008
The obvious reason for 50% is this:
You're getting the opportunity to score on what I think is good(contact) more than half the time if you don't take 50% strikeouts.
Duh.
Or, if it makes you feel better, we can only count the runs scored on whiffs vs. the league average for runs scored. Any takers?
2/21/2008 5:18 PM
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So if a team was full of people who don't strike out a lot, then they would score LOTS more runs than a team that does?
Because all those poeople, not striking out, are contributing to team run scoring?
Make sense to me.
Makes me wonder why you won't bet that teams that strike out the least don't score the most runs.
2/21/2008 5:18 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/21/2008

You know what I'm arguing. A player who strikes out has done NOTHING to help his team in that AB. I like players who do SOMETHING to help the team.
Then why can't you say it? You think striking out less helps the team score more runs.

2/21/2008 5:18 PM
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