Posted by badja on 8/18/2011 12:10:00 AM (view original):
How many players are we drafting?

Posted by snydpie on 8/17/2011 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by garyman on 8/17/2011 10:19:00 PM (view original):
Damn, wanted Worthy... not for his D though. Instead I'll take the next obvious choice and slide Hondo over to the 2. This guy was a beast and had one of the best nicknames ever.

The Human Highlight Film:

Dominique Wilkins

Ok garyman, I love Nique with Magic but.....I don't like Havlicek with this combo......Why? Magic can't defend the PG's in this draft other than Harper. You drafted Hondo to play the other teams best offensive wing but he is going to have to defend PG's on this team and I know that's not what you had intended and I don't think he's quick enough to do that and you didn't take that into consideration. Next defensive problem......Now Nique has to play the best offensive wings and though he is a decent defensive player he isn't going to serve that purpose in this league. Magic can't defend great scorers either so this team has serious defensive issues you should've considered before taking Hondo over Baylor or Worthy. Taking Hondo pretty much was a death sentence if you didn't take a SG that can defend the point but I didn't want to call you out til I saw what direction you went. When having Magic at PG you must have a SG who can defend the point and you don't have that on this team. In my opinion this team doesn't fit so far. Maybe you can explain this teams defensive strategies cuz I see problems.  

Posted by snydpie on 8/17/2011 11:44:00 PM (view original):
I'm not going to argue the fact they gave up alot of points considering they ran the ball as much as possible. Dream wasn't a pure paint presence? hummmmm? Are you for real? He had as many moves as McHale in the post but he was way better! When he embarrassed Robinson in the post he wasn't a pure post player LMFAO U R NOT WORTH MY TIME! BECAUSE HE HAD GREAT RANGE WITH HIS FADE AWAY HE WASN'T A TRUE POST PLAYER HUH? There wasn't a player in the league who could stop Dream in the post and that's a fact! So Jabbar didn't have a pure post game either since he wasn't a power player and always used a hook shot? I DON'T GET IT! 

Ewing was 2nd team cuz of Dream! DUH!

First...no Olajuwon wasn't a pure post player.  The Post is a geophaphic location, not a mentality.  It is like telling you I live in Texas, but I am in North Carolina...while I have my Texan mentality, and I try to stay connected to Texas I am not in Texas.  Post players play inside of 8 feet most of the time post players don't shoot 18 footers with great regularity.  Dream was known for 18 ft. jumpers (fadeaways with people in his face) as he got to about 1990.  I am not saying he didn't play in the post, but his dominent years were very midrange heavy.  His lack of post play in his peak years is the reason he didn't totally rule the offensive glass.

For the second remark about Ewing...your DUH remark would have made more sense if he made the 2nd team all-defense more than just 3 times out of his 17 year career.  By contrast in Olajuwon's 18 seasons he made one of the teams in 9 seasons, Robinson made it 8 out of 14 years, and Mutombo made it 6 of 18 season.  DUH!

And again to reiterate...Worthy NEVER did.

Posted by snydpie on 8/17/2011 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by garyman on 8/17/2011 10:19:00 PM (view original):
Damn, wanted Worthy... not for his D though. Instead I'll take the next obvious choice and slide Hondo over to the 2. This guy was a beast and had one of the best nicknames ever.

The Human Highlight Film:

Dominique Wilkins

Ok garyman, I love Nique with Magic but.....I don't like Havlicek with this combo......Why? Magic can't defend the PG's in this draft other than Harper. You drafted Hondo to play the other teams best offensive wing but he is going to have to defend PG's on this team and I know that's not what you had intended and I don't think he's quick enough to do that and you didn't take that into consideration. Next defensive problem......Now Nique has to play the best offensive wings and though he is a decent defensive player he isn't going to serve that purpose in this league. Magic can't defend great scorers either so this team has serious defensive issues you should've considered before taking Hondo over Baylor or Worthy. Taking Hondo pretty much was a death sentence if you didn't take a SG that can defend the point but I didn't want to call you out til I saw what direction you went. When having Magic at PG you must have a SG who can defend the point and you don't have that on this team. In my opinion this team doesn't fit so far. Maybe you can explain this teams defensive strategies cuz I see problems.  

Posted by badja on 8/18/2011 12:55:00 AM (view original):
Too true.  I'll take Shaq's offense over his Ewing's defense any day.

Posted by snydpie on 8/18/2011 1:02:00 AM (view original):

Posted by badja on 8/18/2011 12:55:00 AM (view original):
Too true.  I'll take Shaq's offense over his Ewing's defense any day.

Anyone would take Shaq over Ewing but who suggested otherwise?

Posted by snydpie on 8/16/2011 1:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by longtallbrad on 8/16/2011 10:39:00 AM (view original):

dh555:  Elgin Baylor, Dirk Nowitzki, Wilt Chamberlain 

I think I’m mostly reserving my opinion until I see the rest of the starting lineup in place.  There is potential for dominance here, and also potential for overkill with two high-volume lead scorers.  I do think that Baylor’s presence helps offset Nowitzki’s light rebounding in this league.  The backcourt needs to be assembled carefully since someone will need to know how to feed these three monsters in ways that play to their strengths, and you don’t really want to diminish Wilt’s touches further.  He still needs to be a threat to go off for 40 or 50, which won’t be the case if he never sees the ball.

garyman:  Magic Johnson, John Havlicek, Willis Reed

Magic should be awesome in this league, and needs the right horses to run with.  Havlicek went pretty high in my opinion, but he fits with Magic in that he can run all day and Is a selfless passer.  It’s just that his stats are deceptively inflated because of the high volume of minutes he played, and (like Baylor) isn’t an efficient shooter by today’s standards.  Reed and Hondo together provide plenty of gritty toughness, hustle, defense, and determined scoring. 

snydpie:  Jason Kidd, Patrick Ewing, Hakeem Olajuwon
Hakeem is great, Kidd was a steal, and Ewing belongs in this league but could have been available lower.  The Olajuwon-Kidd pairing makes sense – I can see them flying on the break together, if you use youngish versions of each.  Younger Kidd is the open-court magician who runs like a deer and plays shut-down defense.  Older Kidd is slower and gets burned more often but is much more of a shooting threat, so you need to pick your poison and build the rest of the team accordingly.  I’m not sold on Ewing and Olajuwon playing side by side since both were natural centers.  As he grew older Ewing evolved into a chronic jump shooter so it may be that he can effectively stay out of Hakeem’s way in the low post, but on defense he would be giving up some footspeed to some power forwards in this league. 

Dream has the quickness to cover the quicker 4's but lookin at these teams so far I don't really see any PF's who are really that quick that Ewing can't handle and I am using the younger/middle career of Ewing who was a pretty quick 7 footer who could still knock down the open jumper. 

The Rodman/Parish combo Ewing covers Chief- Dream on Rodman, McHale-post player Ewing can defend him, he's definately not 2 quick, I would start Ewing on Wilt to keep Dream out of foul trouble and Dream on Dirk but I think Ewing could defend Dirk better than Dirk could defend Ewing or Dream cuz whoever Dirk defends will be the one we pound into the post all night which is a total mismatch not to mention the advantage we have on the boards over Dirk, Pettit is no problem for Ewing, the Duncan/Howard matchup is no problem, Hayes is no problem, McAdoo is no problem, DeBusschere is no problem, K. Malone is a player I'm sure Ewing & Olajuwon can defend as well as most, and Dream will start on Barkley- Ewing on Gilmore but Ewing would play off on Barkley when matched up and force him into a jump shooter, and how is Barkley gonna defend my front court or any other that has great post players for that matter?

I think the biggest question here is who is gonna defend Dream/ Ewing not how we're gonna defend our opponents. I don't see any matchups so far that make me think we will ever be overmatched with our frontcourt especially considering Dreams incredible defensive versatility which you guys are totally overlooking when I drafted Ewing. Dream can defend any C or PF in this draft and Ewing can handle his assignments vs any team on here without difficulty considering he was very versatile defensively also. Dream & Ewing also have better shooting range than most centers which is what makes this combo work so well and is one of the many reasons I got Ewing.  Some of these frontcourts mentioned will definately struggle to defend and rebound against the best players in this league.