Writing the HBD Handbook Topic

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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 9/19/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By schuyler101 on 9/19/2009

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 9/19/2009

Nothing can replace experience. Play the game. WRT to ratings, the general rule is 1 is bad, 100 is good. There should never be a need to ask "Which one?", "Is this guy good?", "Why does this guy suck?"

Then you can sort out the petty arguments that have already started.

wrong, information can replace experience




And wrong information can screw them up.

Obviously, since some of you are already arguing over right/wrong, there's a problem.

Unless, of course, you're the authority on HBD. Please let us know all the ins and outs.

Thanks in advance.
And this is a point I agree with, except for the snarkiness of it. The "Handbook" shouldn't include disputed information, except perhaps to make note of differring opinions.

So, things like PC vs bat or control vs splits vs pitches or $0 medical vs $20 medical aren't things there are definite answers on. Those are the judgment calls that each owner must make for himself, and that new owners have to somewhat learn through experience what works for them.

How many games to expect from a position player, how many minor league seasons before a guy departs via FA, what happens if you your draft pick doesn't sign, etc - the things with real answers (or at least reasonable verifiable estimates) are the things that I think should be explained and included.
9/19/2009 8:57 PM
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Zbrent says:

And this is a point I agree with, except for the snarkiness of it. The "Handbook" shouldn't include disputed information, except perhaps to make note of differring opinions.

So, things like PC vs bat or control vs splits vs pitches or $0 medical vs $20 medical aren't things there are definite answers on. Those are the judgment calls that each owner must make for himself, and that new owners have to somewhat learn through experience what works for them.

How many games to expect from a position player, how many minor league seasons before a guy departs via FA, what happens if you your draft pick doesn't sign, etc - the things with real answers (or at least reasonable verifiable estimates) are the things that I think should be explained and included.





As a noob, I endorse this answer.
9/19/2009 9:05 PM
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Now why you have to go and make sense in this thread?
9/19/2009 9:29 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zbrent716 on 9/19/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 9/19/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By schuyler101 on 9/19/2009

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 9/19/2009

Nothing can replace experience. Play the game. WRT to ratings, the general rule is 1 is bad, 100 is good. There should never be a need to ask "Which one?", "Is this guy good?", "Why does this guy suck?"

Then you can sort out the petty arguments that have already started.

wrong, information can replace experience




And wrong information can screw them up.

Obviously, since some of you are already arguing over right/wrong, there's a problem.

Unless, of course, you're the authority on HBD. Please let us know all the ins and outs.

Thanks in advance.
And this is a point I agree with, except for the snarkiness of it. The "Handbook" shouldn't include disputed information, except perhaps to make note of differring opinions.

So, things like PC vs bat or control vs splits vs pitches or $0 medical vs $20 medical aren't things there are definite answers on. Those are the judgment calls that each owner must make for himself, and that new owners have to somewhat learn through experience what works for them.

How many games to expect from a position player, how many minor league seasons before a guy departs via FA, what happens if you your draft pick doesn't sign, etc - the things with real answers (or at least reasonable verifiable estimates) are the things that I think should be explained and included.

When zbrent and MikeT agree on something, you know it's gotta be good!

But yes... factual guidance is a good thing when there is an absolute "right" answer.

The rest? Figure it out yourself, or develop an opinion of your own.
9/20/2009 12:07 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 9/19/2009And, if there's a retard who doesn't know the 2B/SS/3B aren't handed, he should probably find out on his own.It's simulated BASEBALL.

i should have been more clear, we should inform newbs that they need to check handedness of infielders and not assume that if someone is listed at 2nd that they are right handed...an easy mistake to make that some vets have made...
9/20/2009 12:31 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by knucklebones on 9/19/2009I can't even waive a 90 something minimum salaried PC catcher in a league and get someone to pick him up. That speaks for itself.

well then that proves it, good PC catchers don't help better pitching staffs!

once again context...

a player is the sum of his abilities, offensive and defensive

there are plenty of 90 pc catchers that don't deserve a spot on an ML team...

but if they can hit a little they probably do

fwiw on my Summer of 49 team i employ a good hitting average PC catcher, he's the best option i have...i have a 90+ pc catcher i traded for to back him up and come in as a def replacement but who i can't justify starting over the average defensive guy, because of the gap between them in hitting ability
9/20/2009 12:39 AM
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9/20/2009 12:45 AM
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The devs say PC catchers modify the strength of pitches. Can't make the guy throw over the plate or make him effective, but he can have a 90 rated wild curveball instead of an 88. yay.
9/20/2009 1:30 AM
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Anyways arguing the point is no use to the thread. Advice about PC catchers is obviously open to opinion. I agree with the people who say concrete answers are whats going to be useful. I offered what came to me off the top of my head.
9/20/2009 1:37 AM
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Thank you, everyone, for your thoughts thus far. This is already going much better than I thought it could.

I'd like to see three sections: Facts (provable beyond a reasonable doubt), Debates (the PC catcher stuff is just the tip of the iceberg there, fellas) and Theories (everything else - TheJester's work comes to mind here, as well as stuff like maddiesdad's spreadsheet programs).

I'm certainly not an authority on this game and any project like this needs MANY viewpoints and contributors. I look forward to the help offered by sitemail and already received in this thread. If you want to help - please. The Mentors will be (I hope) a big help because they hear "new" questions more often than do the denizens of the forums.

Please answer the following questions, either in this thread or by sitemail. Thanks for your help!!

***What are topics that the Handbook should address?***

***What are topics the Handbook should not address?***

***What three things would you tell a new HBD owner, if asked for advice?***

9/20/2009 4:38 PM
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A. Any topic can be addressed. One should be clear if their response is a personal preference(I consider RF/LF interchangable) or fact(1 is low, 100 is high).

B. See answer A.

C. 1. Know before you act. Stupid can't be undone.
2. Generally speaking, 1 is bad, 100 is good.
3. Don't be afraid to ask questions but don't take the answers as gospel.

9/20/2009 4:55 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By soxfan121 on 9/20/2009




***What are topics that the Handbook should address?***

Almost anything is fair game. Some suggestions for topics (as a start): budgeting, coach hiring, when to arbitrate vs. long-term, how to run your minors, how to run spring training, preparing for the draft, how to prepare for Rule 5, etc. Along with all the expected stuff, like what to look for in a pitching staff, lineup, defense, etc.


***What are topics the Handbook should not address?***


Hot button/controversial topics, like cash in trades, etc. Trying to tackle issues like that in a Handbook can lead to nothing positive.


***What three things would you tell a new HBD owner, if asked for advice?***


1) Hook up with one or more mentors to give you some personal guidance in your first one or two seasons.

2) Only run one team until you start to feel pretty comfortable with your grasp of the game. I see too many n00bs jumping in immediately with as many as three, four, or even five or more teams. All that does is give them opportunities to make the same n00b mistakes 2x to 5x more frequently.

3) Don't be afraid to ask question in the forums. Read as much as you can. Try to recognize those people who tend to offer sound advice in the forums and ignore those who just troll the forums in an attempt to stir up trouble.


9/20/2009 6:03 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By soxfan121 on 9/20/2009


***What are topics that the Handbook should address?***

Almost anything is fair game. Agree with tec

***What are topics the Handbook should not address?***


Hot button/controversial topics. Agree with tec


***What three things would you tell a new HBD owner, if asked for advice?***


1) Learn to read the red and blue ratings. The best way to do this is to look at hundreds of major league players, and match the stats to the ratings. A hitting or pitching rating below 70 is a liability at the major league level.

2) Don't release anybody unless you don't want to pay them what they want in arbitration. Designate for assignment or waive instead. You'll learn later the exceptions to this rule. This is because if you release someone you have to pay the rest of the contract regardless of who else signs them.

3) Get a mentor. Get your mentor to help you learn to read ratings. Don't make any trades without getting your mentor to evaluate the trade
Two of my three choices are designed more to keep rookies from killing franchises than to help them become contenders.
9/20/2009 7:18 PM
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