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Quote: Originally Posted By biglenr on 10/02/2009
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Quote: Originally Posted By jjgreen14 on 10/02/2009

I respectfully disagree with those limits in OLs, I think 4500PA and 1200 IP would be good.
I didn't write that it was my ideal, I just wrote I could live with it. For the record I completely understand why this is being done. Right now it is just too easy to build a good playoff team by shorting PAs and IPs.
I'd suggest 1250 IP and 5250 PA.

And I'd slightly increase the value of PA since they count towards this minimum

Thinking about this more, one of the problems I see is that the AAA distribution allows one to short PA much more easily than IPs. AAA can easily be counted on for 1500 PAs if you so wished-- that is over 20% of a typical season total. AAA pitching can typically be counted on for only 150 IP (and if you are unlucky, much less)-- that is only 10% of a season total
10/2/2009 2:05 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By sheller on 10/02/2009Are you able to update the proxy queues? Would this be less of an engineering challenge if you only allowed a player to make one proxy pick at a time, rather than queueing up for multiply picks


In the game I can play, you can update at any time.
10/2/2009 2:52 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By llamanunts on 10/02/2009
I wouldn't put a requirement any higher than 1100 IP. If you're in a huge - park, why should you have to draft way too many innings... especially when it's perfectly all right to rely on AAA for low-leverage IP?
Because that is changing as well.

Season long fatigue is going to be by IP rather than PC. So you should need about the same number of IP to pitch in Coors as you do in Petco.

People: don't underestimate this change. This update is going to require a MAJOR paradigm shift.

10/2/2009 3:15 PM
Whoops... Reading the public announcement, I don't see a mention of that. They've been discussing it, but I guess that it's not going to be ready for 10/14. My mistake.
10/2/2009 3:19 PM
2 new cookies. Frank O'Rourke and George Baker. no one will actually use them, they'll just waste roster spots for the cheap PA. and Dad Hale becomes the new favorite mopup man.
10/2/2009 3:24 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By llamanunts on 10/02/2009I wouldn't put a requirement any higher than 1100 IP. If you're in a huge - park, why should you have to draft way too many innings... especially when it's perfectly all right to rely on AAA for low-leverage IP
Totally agree. The only thing that I want to fix is the newbie who takes the 600IP.
10/2/2009 3:40 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By The Taint on 10/02/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By sheller on 10/02/2009
Are you able to update the proxy queues? Would this be less of an engineering challenge if you only allowed a player to make one proxy pick at a time, rather than queueing up for multiply picks?



In the game I can play, you can update at any time.


I can see the development problems if you're trying to design for multiple picks. A single proxy pick should be easy - just go down the list until you hit an available player. If you load for more than one pick, tho... heck, I'd have a hard time setting a priority list if I had to account for more than one pick at a time. My #2 need/want would be different, for instance, if my 1st pick was Herb Score, or Harmon Killebrew, or Sandy Koufax.
10/2/2009 3:45 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By grizzly_one on 10/02/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By biglenr on 10/02/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By llamanunts on 10/02/2009
I wouldn't put a requirement any higher than 1100 IP. If you're in a huge - park, why should you have to draft way too many innings... especially when it's perfectly all right to rely on AAA for low-leverage IP?
Because that is changing as well.

Season long fatigue is going to be by IP rather than PC. So you should need about the same number of IP to pitch in Coors as you do in Petco.

People: don't underestimate this change. This update is going to require a MAJOR paradigm shift.


Quote: Originally Posted By biglenr on 10/02/2009
Whoops... Reading the public announcement, I don't see a mention of that. They've been discussing it, but I guess that it's not going to be ready for 10/14. My mistake.
That's too bad. I would love to see that. I can't wait to see what we've got here


Actually, I think its still wrong. Is it fair that in a game that has 30+ runs that all the hitters get tired and none of the pitchers? To be fair, the same criteria should be used with pitchers as they do with hitters-PA. They essentially have the stat, otherwise they couldn't figure out OBA and stuff.
10/2/2009 4:58 PM
A real life major league team uses around 1460 IPs. Even with the 10% overuse cushion built in, that leaves around 1330 IPs. I think 1250 is more than fair.
10/2/2009 5:20 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By rbow923 on 10/02/2009
2 new cookies. Frank O'Rourke and George Baker. no one will actually use them, they'll just waste roster spots for the cheap PA. and Dad Hale becomes the new favorite mopup man.
I had the same thoughts, though Dad Hale is already a very popular player. If you take him (the 73 IP version), Spade and Goom, you can get 200IP for something like $700K. Take that Frank Gilmore!
10/2/2009 5:22 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By schwarze on 10/02/2009A real life major league team uses around 1460 IPs. Even with the 10% overuse cushion built in, that leaves around 1330 IPs. I think 1250 is more than fair.
This isn't real life.
10/2/2009 5:31 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By boogerlips on 10/02/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By schwarze on 10/02/2009
A real life major league team uses around 1460 IPs. Even with the 10% overuse cushion built in, that leaves around 1330 IPs. I think 1250 is more than fair.
This isn't real life
Don't tell my wife...
10/2/2009 6:26 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By boogerlips on 10/02/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By schwarze on 10/02/2009
A real life major league team uses around 1460 IPs. Even with the 10% overuse cushion built in, that leaves around 1330 IPs. I think 1250 is more than fair.
This isn't real life
Lucid observation.
10/2/2009 7:32 PM
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10/2/2009 7:49 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By winnetka1 on 10/02/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By boogerlips on 10/02/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By schwarze on 10/02/2009
A real life major league team uses around 1460 IPs. Even with the 10% overuse cushion built in, that leaves around 1330 IPs. I think 1250 is more than fair.
This isn't real life.
Don't tell my wife..
You guys have wives?

10/2/2009 9:48 PM
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