Yeah Koufax.

Remember the Triples era we had in HBD? That might get some guys in who otherwise wouldn't.

You got to love WIS ability to actually read tickets.

1/25/2010 5:22 PM plague
Question is about Hall Of Fame

What decides if a player is a middle reliever, short reliever, or starter? Is it the sim? I have a player the sim would consider a starter who is my closer, is the sim going to consider him a starter?

What about a player who has multiple roles during his career? What if a pitcher starts the first half of his career and then closes the second half of his career? Or a player whose role is middle reliever for the first 5 to 6 seasons, then becomes a free agent then spends the next 6 to 7 seasons as a closer.

1/26/2010 10:08 AM Customer Support
James,

The qualifications are clearly outlined in the HBD update thread please review them if something remains unclear.

For starters and long relievers it is 125IP/season and for relievers it is 50G/season. We lowered the requirements to account for players that have had multiple roles throughout their career. Of course the player must be retired and he must have accumulated 10+ ML years.

1/26/2010 5:25 PM plague
I did not ask about qualifications! Your answer had nothing to do with my question.

Quote: Originally Posted By schuyler101 on 1/25/2010

Quote: Originally posted by grivfmd1 on 1/25/201
http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=757523

5 allstar games - 3 as a starter 2 as a closer

1 Fireman award

29 in 1st season

record 126-60

95 save out of 109 opportunities

yes or no

You didn't point out his best numbers - the 2.29 ERA and 1.01 WHIP, and he didn't post an ERA over 3 until his last season

In season 7 he put up a 1.45 ERA in 211 innings, that's insane!

How did he not win the Cy Young that year?

Hall of Fame? Absolutely

The crazy thing is I don't think he's even eligible for nomination, only 8 seasons as a starter, doesn't hit any of the statistical milestones and doesn't hit any of the awards benchmarks (AS appearances, Cy Youngs

good call Schuyler - he is NOT on the nomination list -

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/25/2010It's appearances not innings. 50 games.

and if your closer cant get into 50 games all season, you have more to worry about than just the HOF..try improvong your team...

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In the 45+ games per season is hat average or does he need at least 10 seasons of 45 games?

I have a player who has twice finished in the top 3 for he Cy Young who might not be eligible. His most recent season he was up for the Cy Young but didn't even get an All-Star nod.

http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1086210

Quote: Originally posted by drarcher on 2/02/2010In the 45+ games per season is hat average or does he need at least 10 seasons of 45 games? I have a player who has twice finished in the top 3 for he Cy Young who might not be eligible. His most recent season he was up for the Cy Young but didn't even get an All-Star nod.http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1086210

wow, that has to be one of the most under-utilized player of all time...he should be pitching a minimum of 100 innings/year, if not 120 or more

Quote: Originally posted by bighead34 on 2/02/2010

Quote: Originally posted by drarcher on 2/02/2010In the 45+ games per season is hat average or does he need at least 10 seasons of 45 games? I have a player who has twice finished in the top 3 for he Cy Young who might not be eligible. His most recent season he was up for the Cy Young but didn't even get an All-Star nod.http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1086210

wow, that has to be one of the most under-utilized player of all time...he should be pitching a minimum of 100 innings/year, if not 120 or more

wow, in seasons 7, 8 and 9 combined he pitched 104 innings, he should be throwing that many every year, criminal...

Quote: Originally Posted By bighead34 on 2/02/2010

Quote: Originally posted by drarcher on 2/02/2010
In the 45+ games per season is hat average or does he need at least 10 seasons of 45 games?

I have a player who has twice finished in the top 3 for he Cy Young who might not be eligible. His most recent season he was up for the Cy Young but didn't even get an All-Star nod.

http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1086210

wow, that has to be one of the most under-utilized player of all time...he should be pitching a minimum of 100 innings/year, if not 120 or mor

Not sure how to get him in more. I have him set as the only closer. This season I moved him to being available in the 8th and 9th inning to get more games out of him. How else can I get him in more?

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Quote: Originally Posted By domiisgod on 2/02/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/25/2010
It's appearances not innings. 50 games.

and if your closer cant get into 50 games all season, you have more to worry about than just the HOF..try improvong your team..

I strongly disagree with this statement. For example, http://whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=999070 in seasons 9, 10, and 11 he had at most 45.1 IP and my records were as follows:

Season 9: 125-37
Season 10: 110-52
Season 11: 109-53

And all 3 seasons I made the WS.

http://whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=918567 only had 1 season between seasons 6 and 10 with over 50 IP (and that was the one season he was removed as my closer), my record over those seasons:

Season 6: 80-82
Season 7: 100-62
Season 8: 90-72
Season 9: 105-57
Season 10: 100-62

And in season 11 I am 15-5 thus far and he has yet to have a save opp.

I could continue but hopefully you get my point...

is your point that despite the fact you didn't maximize your relief ace's innings, you still had success?

Quote: Originally posted by bighead34 on 2/03/2010is your point that despite the fact you didn't maximize your relief ace's innings, you still had success?

i think it's that you can have a great team with a closer that doesn't get into very many games...so telling the guy to improve his team instead of worrying about getting into the hall of fame is kind of silly...

you lost me with that one schuyler

What he means is that you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butcher's ***