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just frustration talking, doc.

but i think i am going to be much less "active" (read: not so many classic rants), at least for a couple months, as work is getting busy, plus coaching JV baseball.

anyways, i plan to keep the Qs for a while.
2/6/2010 6:03 AM
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the kernel is right on the money this time, fellas.

maybe BPI *is* for me?
2/6/2010 6:04 AM
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as for my non-con:

i forgot to schedule.

but, in my opinion , if we are trying to determine who had the more impressive year, we should use all the information at our disposal. whne you look at our schedules in total, there is no question i had a much tougher schedule.
2/6/2010 6:11 AM
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mm,

again, i agee my noncon was horrible. the 9 wins were pretty much worthless as any decent top100 team would have won all of them. and the loss (and lets ignore the fact for a moment that i got screwed by the rng in that one) was to a pretty goof team that made the sweet16, i think.

But, it is absolutely insane to try to degrade my season in the BigEast. First of all, swept uconn and gergetown... can you imagine any scenario in which Penn does that?

Second, all 11 of my big east wins were better than all but one of Penn's wins... can you deny that?

Anways, sorry this has degraded into me hatin on Penn... I really dont mean to do that. but to suggest that thier season was more impressive than mine (prior to the buttwhooppin they put on us in round1 of course) is just crazytalk to me.
2/6/2010 6:22 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by oldave on 2/06/2010as for my non-con:i forgot to schedule. but,  in my opinion , if we are trying to determine who had the more impressive year,  we should use all the information at our disposal.   whne you look at our schedules in total, there is no question i had a much tougher schedule.


I agree, your schd was better then them, but the overall season theres was better. I don't get it - I really don't. Because your schd was harder you ignore the more wins, lower rpi, ct championship? That stuff defines a season. You had some good wins and he didn't have any, but I don't see how that makes up for the weaker RPI, No championship and less wins.
2/6/2010 4:33 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By furry_nipps on 2/06/2010
Quote: Originally posted by oldave on 2/06/2010
as for my non-con:

i forgot to schedule.

but, in my opinion , if we are trying to determine who had the more impressive year, we should use all the information at our disposal. whne you look at our schedules in total, there is no question i had a much tougher schedule.


I agree, your schd was better then them, but the overall season theres was better. I don't get it - I really don't. Because your schd was harder you ignore the more wins, lower rpi, ct championship? That stuff defines a season. You had some good wins and he didn't have any, but I don't see how that makes up for the weaker RPI, No championship and less wins.


That was my point...Furry said it better...Davey you know I got nothing but love for your Cuse team generally, just think you missed it in this instance.
2/6/2010 8:18 PM
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I think there is too much of a negative impact for not winning your CT. I don't know how many times I would lose to a ranked team with a great RPI in the CT only to get a 6 through 11 seed in the NT. It happens almost every season with my DIII team. It seems that if you don't win the CT no matter how good of a rank or RPI you have, you automatically suck and are pulled way down in the seedings.
2/6/2010 11:43 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By mmt0315 on 2/06/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By furry_nipps on 2/06/2010

Quote: Originally posted by oldave on 2/06/2010

as for my non-con:

i forgot to schedule.

but, in my opinion , if we are trying to determine who had the more impressive year, we should use all the information at our disposal. whne you look at our schedules in total, there is no question i had a much tougher schedule.


I agree, your schd was better then them, but the overall season theres was better. I don't get it - I really don't. Because your schd was harder you ignore the more wins, lower rpi, ct championship? That stuff defines a season. You had some good wins and he didn't have any, but I don't see how that makes up for the weaker RPI, No championship and less wins.



That was my point...Furry said it better...Davey you know I got nothing but love for your Cuse team generally, just think you missed it in this instance.
You guys aren't looking at it very close. Penn went 2-4 in non-conference against RPI top 100 teams. There was only 1 other team in the Ivy that was top 100 (and just barely at 98). They did a great job in conference like they should of. Syracuse did have a terrible non-conference schedule but did go 9-1 losing in OT to the #25 RPI. Then in conference EVERY SINGLE TEAM had a top 100 RPI. They went 12-6! That's awesome against that level of competition.

In summary, Penn went 5-4 against top 100 RPI teams (3 of the wins against #98). Syracuse went 12-7 against top 100 RPI including 4-3 against top 25 RPI. If Syracuse was playing in the Ivy they would of destroyed everyone too because the conference sucks. Syracuse had a more impressive season until Penn beat them in the 1st round.
2/7/2010 1:11 PM
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Agreed, kelby. There simply is not enough emphasis placed on quality of competition and quality wins.

And swift, you're right as well, way, way too much emphasis placed on CT performance. Definite flaw.
2/7/2010 1:52 PM
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I hate to call oldave out here, but it seems odd to me that he says that he didn't schedule his non-con yet he has 10 non-con home games, 8 against sim ai....what are the chances of that happening really when you don't fill out your own non-con? I call bs there.
2/8/2010 9:25 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/08/2010I hate to call oldave out here, but it seems odd to me that he says that he didn't schedule his non-con yet he has 10 non-con home games, 8 against sim ai....what are the chances of that happening really when you don't fill out your own non-con? I call bs there
Sigh.

The chances of that happening are actually excellent when you don't set your own schedule. You're going to end up getting scheduled with teams who also haven't set their schedule, which are going to be sims. And they're going to be mostly at your place.

You hadn't said anything eternally stupid in a little while, I was starting to get hopeful. This one brings you two steps back ... not just the stupidity, but calling Ol' D a liar to boot. Fantastic, really.
2/8/2010 9:48 AM
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All 10 games were at home, 8 were sim AIs...there's a perfectly good reason to wonder.
2/8/2010 9:49 AM
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In 31 seasons at Syracuse, oldave has 22 seasons where he played 14 or more home games, which means he loaded his non-con with more home games than roadies....11 times the disparity has been 8H-2A or greater.

He also has a history of home loading his schedule after missing the tournament, but I'm supposed to just believe that he didn't schedule his own non-con because he says so. I've got white gloves on and am not buying ketchup popsicles. The last 4 times he missed the tournament, his home games have increased 17 to 18, 10 to 15, 15 to 18, and 15 to 17. There's no coincidence here...he knows what he's doing.

This doesn't add much weight, but 5 of the 8 of the sim ais he played at home this past season had more road games than home games.
2/8/2010 10:01 AM
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That's good, colonels. Continue to call oldave a liar. Very charming.
2/8/2010 10:08 AM
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Given the facts, oldave's claim that he didn't schedule his non-con is incredibly hard to believe.
2/8/2010 10:09 AM
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