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Quote: Originally Posted By cjlancaster on 2/10/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/10/2010

GAP average FI IQ now: 64.71
GAP average FI IQ in S1: 61.78

What's the problem here?

Clearly comparing to Season 1 is the best way to determine if everything is correct for all facets of HBD.

Once again, I don't care that I have a 55 FI coach for 1.5 million. Whatever the market price is. But what shouldn't happen is an insufficient number of FI coaches be generated. And while we are on the subject, how exactly does it make sense that a 80+ rated fielding coach turns downa $4 mill a year job to accept a $600k job as a ML bench coach?

There are coaches looking to be hired as HC/BC/PC who have high FI #s. So if they are offered jobs at those positions, they will accept that over being a FI, despite the FI rating. So while you may think they should by FI's, the game logic has determined they want to be something else.
2/10/2010 4:20 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By bigal888 on 2/10/2010

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/10/2010

GAP average FI IQ now: 64.71
GAP average FI IQ in S1: 61.78

What's the problem here?

Not a problem, but you shouldn't have to be subjected to a game of musical chairs. I would bet that every real life ML team has a fielding coach with an IQ above 55 and there are plenty available. But in this one case, there were only enough available that eventually one guy was going to get screwed even if everyone was paying attention.



Screwed because he didn't get the magical minimum that you've determined a FI should be?

I had a 51(or something in HJ one season). My fielders improved. They did not get worse. Were there not 32 45+ FI in your world?
2/10/2010 4:24 PM
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Clean that crap up before you post it, tec.
2/10/2010 4:26 PM
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I agree. I think there has to be a problem with a system that allows an 80+ FI to accept a lesser-paid position as a BC. Just adding more FI doesn't solve the problem.
2/10/2010 4:26 PM
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Alright, here are two charts that show the distribution for FI and hitting coaches. My guess is that people want the FI distribution to mirror hitting coaches

Not enough mid range FI - too many on the low end.



All the hitting coaches are on the high end.

Two questions: should the FI distribution mirror the hitting coaches?
Should the hitting coaches have less available in the high end?
2/10/2010 4:26 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/10/2010Clean that crap up before you post it, tec
Jesus. I just cleaned it up and you redline it. Douche.
2/10/2010 4:27 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by bigal888 on 2/10/2010Alright, here are two charts that show the distribution for FI and hitting coaches. My guess is that people want the FI distribution to mirror hitting coaches

Not enough mid range FI - too many on the low end.



All the hitting coaches are on the high end.

Two questions: should the FI distribution mirror the hitting coaches?
Should the hitting coaches have less available in the high end?

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2/10/2010 4:27 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By cjlancaster on 2/10/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/10/2010

GAP average FI IQ now: 64.71
GAP average FI IQ in S1: 61.78

What's the problem here?

Clearly comparing to Season 1 is the best way to determine if everything is correct for all facets of HBD.

Once again, I don't care that I have a 55 FI coach for 1.5 million. Whatever the market price is. But what shouldn't happen is an insufficient number of FI coaches be generated. And while we are on the subject, how exactly does it make sense that a 80+ rated fielding coach turns downa $4 mill a year job to accept a $600k job as a ML bench coach?



And you've chosen some magic number for what a FI should be. How did you determine this number?

And, while were on the subject, I have tough time finding CF/2B/SS with good range/glove ratings and a decent bat. Should I be forced to play fielders who can't hit?
2/10/2010 4:27 PM
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Sorry, no HBD teams, no posting in my threads. My rule.
2/10/2010 4:28 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 2/10/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/10/2010
Clean that crap up before you post it, tec.
Jesus. I just cleaned it up and you redline it. Douche


Sorry. It was about 782 spaces too wide. Be faster next time.
2/10/2010 4:29 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/10/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By cjlancaster on 2/10/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/10/2010

GAP average FI IQ now: 64.71
GAP average FI IQ in S1: 61.78

What's the problem here?

Clearly comparing to Season 1 is the best way to determine if everything is correct for all facets of HBD.

Once again, I don't care that I have a 55 FI coach for 1.5 million. Whatever the market price is. But what shouldn't happen is an insufficient number of FI coaches be generated. And while we are on the subject, how exactly does it make sense that a 80+ rated fielding coach turns downa $4 mill a year job to accept a $600k job as a ML bench coach?




And you've chosen some magic number for what a FI should be. How did you determine this number?

And, while were on the subject, I have tough time finding CF/2B/SS with good range/glove ratings and a decent bat. Should I be forced to play fielders who can't hit?


Not the point. The point is: Should you throw a pitcher out there to play CF because there are no 2B/CF available for you to hire?
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2/10/2010 4:30 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By cjlancaster on 2/10/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/10/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By cjlancaster on 2/10/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/10/2010

GAP average FI IQ now: 64.71
GAP average FI IQ in S1: 61.78

What's the problem here?

Clearly comparing to Season 1 is the best way to determine if everything is correct for all facets of HBD.

Once again, I don't care that I have a 55 FI coach for 1.5 million. Whatever the market price is. But what shouldn't happen is an insufficient number of FI coaches be generated. And while we are on the subject, how exactly does it make sense that a 80+ rated fielding coach turns downa $4 mill a year job to accept a $600k job as a ML bench coach?




And you've chosen some magic number for what a FI should be. How did you determine this number?

And, while were on the subject, I have tough time finding CF/2B/SS with good range/glove ratings and a decent bat. Should I be forced to play fielders who can't hit?



Not the point. The point is: Should you throw a pitcher out there to play CF because there are no 2B/CF available for you to hire?


100% to the point. Other people signed them. But there wasn't 32 of them so I got out. WifS should create more, right?
2/10/2010 4:31 PM
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Part I like the best. I sent in a ticket (12/30/2009) that there were only a total of 30 FI available for 32 teams in one world.

Customer support answer:]

"There are a dozen or so coaches capable of being a fielding instructor (especially as they age) looking for alternative roles throughout the minors.

Supply & Demand is part of the game and it involves strategy. There's variance in the # of coaches that retire each season, but a consistent # of coaches created each season. Some of the younger fielding instructors initially look at other roles before gaining the experience to be among the elite MLB fielding instructors. On top of that, some just aren't as good as the others. But a fielding instructor with a fielding rating of 52 is better than getting stuck with one that has no business being a fielding instructor."

Either I got another typical customer support answer, or the wind changed direction, and so did the views at customer support.
2/10/2010 4:34 PM
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