Commish’s Role Topic

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Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/12/2010If it's "bad for the league", it should be against the league standards/guidelines.   If it's not, you should re-examine your participation in that world if it's a problem for you.

There are no guidelines in the league. That is problem #1. The commish that started the league and all hell broke loose after that.
2/12/2010 10:00 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/12/2010If a commish is playing within the guidelines of the world, that doesn't make him a bad commish. You should probably quit the world because they have poor standards. And, if the commish is enforcing those poor standards that the world accepts, how is he at fault


And this is another reason you could argue that a commish should do what's best for his team.

He gets the blame for the ills of the world even if he's just doing what the world "wants".
2/12/2010 10:00 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by nfet on 2/12/2010
Quote: Originally posted by hartjh14 on 2/12/2010I'm more referring to a commish doing things that are bad for the league as a whole but help his own team, and defending it by saying he is going to do what's best for his team first regardless of what it does to the league.
find a new world.

I am just fixing up a neglected team. I am not a long term owner. This isn't really meant to be about that one league anyway, just a general discussion.
2/12/2010 10:01 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By hartjh14 on 2/12/2010
Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/12/2010 If it's "bad for the league", it should be against the league standards/guidelines. If it's not, you should re-examine your participation in that world if it's a problem for you.

There are no guidelines in the league. That is problem #1. The commish that started the league and all hell broke loose after that

That's a world problem not a commish problem.
2/12/2010 10:01 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 2/12/2010Thanks for the input, snake
I missed it. What did he say before he deleted his post?
2/12/2010 10:09 AM
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A commish has two very separate roles. One is to be an owner just like the 31 others and do his best to win the championship. The other is to be commish. They are separate and distinct and a good commish should not let them overlap.

A bad commish will do something like this: enact a ruleof no franchise relocation, decide he cant win in his current city, and then change the rule so he can move. That's mixing your two hats up.

A good commish will stick with the league rules and will not change them. People joined his league for the rules that were put in place, not to have the rules pulled out form under them. Yes, there wil be times when rules need tochange, but a good commish will make certain any changes are discussed at length and maybe even voted on.

A good commish also will not put his own team above theleague when doing commish duties. Example: turning down a top owner because the open team is in his division and adding a newbie that he can dominate instead. that is bad for the league.

All that being said, being a commish does not take very much extra effort. Other than around rollover time when you have to recruit...and hopefully the rest of the league understands that recruiting is even a job for the entire world to help with. Don't just sit back and think one person who is in 3 or 4 worlds can magically make half a dozen new owners appear.
2/12/2010 10:11 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by csherwood on 2/12/2010A good commish will stick with the league rules and will not change them.  People joined his league for the rules that were put in place, not to have the rules pulled out form under them.  Yes, there wil be times when rules need tochange, but a good commish will make certain any changes are discussed at length and maybe even voted on.

Perfectly put
2/12/2010 10:30 AM
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when you quit a world because you dont agree with the standards, there's no blame. it's just a matter of wanting different standards.

I still think that the good commishes do more than just enforce league rules though. Most leagues don't have many rules beyond what WIS already has factored in. They need to define league character.

For example, most worlds would generally be against no unbalanced trades. If an owner in a world points out what he thinks to be an unbalanced trade to a commish .....what's his role then?

Does the commish make a point to ask everyone to consider the trade, take a second look...in case it was glossed over in the veto process? Or, is that considered campaigning against the trade?

2/12/2010 10:32 AM
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2/12/2010 10:33 AM
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Not sure. I'm guessing around 10
2/12/2010 10:34 AM
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If there's a suspect trade, the commish role is no different than the owner's role. Point it out if it bothers you. There is no Commissioner Chat. It's World Chat.
2/12/2010 10:42 AM
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2/12/2010 11:02 AM
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One thing that should remain constant in all private worlds, whether they have "rules" or not: recruiting for new owners at season rollover, or filling mid-season replacements when the need arises.
2/12/2010 11:09 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/12/2010I'll make the argument because it can be made.A commish does most of the heavy lifting to fill a world.  The commish gets all the crap when one member falls "out of line."   The commish gets a whole $5 for this while paying the same as everyone else to play the game.Why shouldn't he want to build the best team he can within the rules of the world?


That's what I feel as well.. I didn't become a commish to help everyone else win while I just sit there with a **** team.. Follow the rules you enforce ..

One thing I want to add to this.. The hardest part about being a commish is even after you screen owners you still end up with that one dipshit that don't want to follow the rules of the world and when you go to replace them Admin don't do anything about it.. Makes it not even worth being a commish if you can't even run your own world..
2/12/2010 11:25 AM
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