Dalter’s thread. Topic

If you're having "50% of your team" (and I'd love to see an example of that. In all of my seasons I've never heard of a single team losing six players to EE all at once), then your prestige is going to be sky high. In which case, I don't see how having A+ prestige is much of a "disadvantage."
2/17/2010 2:25 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By hitman1979 on 2/17/2010If you're having "50% of your team" (and I'd love to see an example of that. In all of my seasons I've never heard of a single team losing six players to EE all at once), then your prestige is going to be sky high. In which case, I don't see how having A+ prestige is much of a "disadvantage."
Having 4 seniors and losing 3 to the draft puts you past 'half your team' and for no fault of your own you do not get full 'ship monies. That needs to be fixed.

Also check out some of lm2's teams he has had a ton of players leave from teams before.
2/17/2010 2:31 PM
well, i don't think you can count seniors in a question of if half the teams has early. neither in the # who leave or in the total for the team. so if you have 2 seniors and lose 5, that is half the team leaving early IMO. and i know that has happened at least twice. 4 with 4 leaving has probably happened some too?

its kind of irrelevant i think, but just thought i'd chime in anyway :)
2/17/2010 2:38 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By coach_billyg on 2/17/2010well, i don't think you can count seniors in a question of if half the teams has early. neither in the # who leave or in the total for the team. so if you have 2 seniors and lose 5, that is half the team leaving early IMO. and i know that has happened at least twice. 4 with 4 leaving has probably happened some too?

its kind of irrelevant i think, but just thought i'd chime in anyway :
Gil my point was it happens and since the cap in money was to 'stop superclasses' (thanks pork! ) and now we can't go over 6 in a class anyway it makes 0 sense to still have the cap, especially when coaches are having to fill more then 6 and there is nothing they could have done to stop it.
2/17/2010 2:42 PM
i get it. wasn't commenting on the actual point either way, even though i hate when that happens (going over 6 openings from 3 or more early entries).
2/17/2010 2:46 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By coach_billyg on 2/17/2010i get it. wasn't commenting on the actual point either way, even though i hate when that happens (going over 6 openings from 3 or more early entries)
Yeah I figured you understood where I was going with it. I may have been misleading with my comment of having 'more then 6 openings due to EE's'

To whoever said "You would have sky high prestige with 6 draftees" - Draftees aren't worth a whole heck of a lot and they are only a 1 season boost so it is very misleading to think that.
2/17/2010 2:48 PM
what? they are only a 1 season boost? i thought they went into the 4 year prestige formula like everything else :(
2/17/2010 2:55 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By gillispie on 2/17/2010what? they are only a 1 season boost? i thought they went into the 4 year prestige formula like everything else :
Not from what I have seen in how prestige works. Your coach prestige is always helped by the total # of draftees you have had tho from my understanding.
2/17/2010 2:57 PM
coach prestige is only used in job applications, right?
2/17/2010 3:09 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By Fregoe on 2/17/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 2/17/2010

Of course not. What you're saying is common sense, there's literally no chance I'd be able to get opinions from 50% of HD users.

But what I am doing is getting opinions from the cross section of users who know HD the best and care about it the most, so to me that is worthwhile. Perfect? Of course not. Still useful? Absolutely.

if I was to suggest something you disagree with would you put it in there? is there anything in there that you dont agree with already
Yes and yes.
2/17/2010 3:11 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By mmt0315 on 2/17/2010
I hate being the one to do this as I am well aware that Dalter is doing what he always does and thats trying to improve HD. But I have to say that I think its fairly short sighted to think that one person getting the opinion of what I'd guess is a very small minority of overall HD users and presenting it to Seble as suggestions the "community" thinks would improve the game it potentially more damaging then helpful. I read through the suggestions and there are several I couldnt agree with less.

I hope Seble does not take any suggestions as community sentiment and views them as strictly the opinion of a minority of coaches.

I could be wrong; But I doubt 50% of HD users submitted suggestions and would venture to guess the numbers are probably in the ballpark of 5%.



You make a valid point MMT, however, everyone is free to sitemail Dalter with their ideas. If they choose not to, that's on them and if changes are made that they don't agree with, their right to ***** is null and void at that point. Submit ideas, feel free to *****. Sit back with their mouths shut, give up said right to complain. Kind of like voting in real life.........
2/17/2010 3:17 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By gillispie on 2/17/2010coach prestige is only used in job applications, right?
And Recruiting.
2/17/2010 3:21 PM
Emy, the problem is, the vast majority of HD users do not troll the forums atleast not on a consistent basis. I play in a conference in Naismith with a collection of great coaches. I think I've seen one actually post on here besides me. I think the coaches that come on here consistantly are the newbies and the addicts. Many of you like to use sample size as retort alot of times and thats my point...I think the sample size is to small. Many simply like the game as is, its the ones that want change that you are typically going to hear from.

2/17/2010 3:22 PM
5) I dont think FT shooting should improve more than a maximum of a full letter grade. Its unrealistic to think an F FT shooter can suddently become a C+, its just not how FT shooting works.

Yes, sometimes it does. Not all the time, and not like before (when anyone could become an A/A+ ft shooter), but some guys do make big leaps in ft shooting.

The numbers were broken down by Tarek back in the day and the statistical data overwhelmingly demonstrated the consistency of FT shooting. Im not saying it shouldn't improve at all, but if its between the current rate of improvement v. the old method. Im for the new method. And I'd say again NO player should change more than a letter grade.



See Nik Caner-Medley. 58% as a Freshman, 82% as a Senior. It happens.
2/17/2010 3:25 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By mmt0315 on 2/17/2010

Emy, the problem is, the vast majority of HD users do not troll the forums atleast not on a consistent basis. I play in a conference in Naismith with a collection of great coaches. I think I've seen one actually post on here besides me. I think the coaches that come on here consistantly are the newbies and the addicts. Many of you like to use sample size as retort alot of times and thats my point...I think the sample size is to small. Many simply like the game as is, its the ones that want change that you are typically going to hear from.






I know that conference very well! Just wish I still had the interest to have paid more attention to my team there.........

By the way, that makes at least three of us from that conference........
2/17/2010 3:35 PM
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