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Quote: Originally Posted By piratesfan23 on 3/05/2010Those 3 walkons dont help a bit either. He could be developing 3 guys in those spots. Couple more pg's and maybe a big guy
Well this is obvious...I got screwed on one guy in recruiting which is a completely different issue and its not like I wanted walk-ons. My team would most certainly be in better shape with 3 schollies than 3 walk-ons.
3/5/2010 9:28 PM
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Just wanted to add one more thing...if you knew 1 team had 16 TO and the other had 5...who do you think would have won?
3/5/2010 9:53 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 3/05/2010Just wanted to add one more thing...if you knew 1 team had 16 TO and the other had 5...who do you think would have won?

I wouldn't judge a game off the turnover battle. There's too many other things that come into play.
3/5/2010 10:34 PM
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This is sad, colonels a bunch of people of coaches who have had much more success in this game than you have are telling you that the other is more talented than your team and yet you are completely ignoring those posts, why is that?

Objectively compare player to player on both teams and see if you really think your team should be blowing that team out.
3/5/2010 11:04 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 3/05/2010

What don't you understand here?

The other team had better talent, so saying they have no business to beat you or shoot well is absurd. 60% beyond the arc...give me a break...I wasn't playing -5.

You put together a bad game plan, failing to adjust from your first meeting. Why would you adjust the gameplan when you won the first game on the road by 21...against a sim no less?

It's pretty simple, and it wasn't even close to a ridiculous result. If it makes you feel better to cling to that ridiculous notion despite the fact that numerous experienced coaches have stepped in to point out the reality, well, I can't stop you from that. There are guys here that will attempt to explain away anything, and the fact that its me bringing this up probably has something to do with the responses as well. I think this is a clear case of the sim taking a s*** on somebody/me. I was up 14 in the 2nd half when the sim said "Hold on colonels, you're losing today". Given the team's record and the result of game 1...this result is rather bogus, and I think its clear to see where my frustration stems from.

".....and the fact that its me bringing this up probably has something to do with the responses as well"


This statement says it all really. Again, a number of experienced, respected coaches giving their opinions on what happened with your game and all you can see is people "hating" on you because it's you. My man, you REALLY need to grow up and let loose of the "I'm Trevor, and because of this people are automatically hating on me". It's growing tiresome, really. You got some good, honest advice in this thread and you can't even see it because of the complex you've got.

By the way, you're complaining about losing a 14 point second half lead? Like that NEVER happens in the real world?

3/5/2010 11:19 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By kmasonbx on 3/06/2010
This is sad, colonels a bunch of people of coaches who have had much more success in this game than you have are telling you that the other is more talented than your team and yet you are completely ignoring those posts, why is that? Because I won the first game at their place by 21, and I was up 14 in the second half at my place and won the TO battle by 11...all valid reasons to think the sim got it wrong. If I won by 1 point, I probably wouldn't have said anything.

Objectively compare player to player on both teams and see if you really think your team should be blowing that team out. Its not about blowing that team out, its about winning the game.

3/5/2010 11:42 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By dcy0827 on 3/06/2010
".....and the fact that its me bringing this up probably has something to do with the responses as well".


This statement says it all really. Again, a number of experienced, respected coaches giving their opinions on what happened with your game and all you can see is people "hating" on you because it's you. My man, you REALLY need to grow up and let loose of the "I'm Trevor, and because of this people are automatically hating on me". It's growing tiresome, really. I'm saying it has something to do with it...maybe not consciously, but I don't think who made the post goes unnoticed. Diablo11 or metsmax...who's getting more favorable feedback? You got some good, honest advice in this thread and you can't even see it because of the complex you've got. That's not it. I'm frankly tired of people "trying" to justify everything that happens in this/these game(s). Like I said, I've lost 7 other games, have I said a word about any of them? I don't just accept things like the guys that posted here do..."them's the breaks" simply isn't a sufficient excuse. If I won by 21 at their place and it was a sim, I should have won at my place by at least 1, that's my line of thought, and defending a game/staff I don't entirely believe in isn't automatically going to change my mind.

By the way, you're complaining about losing a 14 point second half lead? Like that NEVER happens in the real world? The real-world to HD comparisons will never fly with me, they simply don't apply. I made this point to show that my team was more than capable of winning the game and probably should have won.

3/5/2010 11:49 PM
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Let's see if this sounds familiar to anyone:

1. Colonels posts something.

2. A number of experienced, veteran coaches jump in and say, "Buddy, that doesn't make any sense", and then offer a clear rational as to why.

3. Colonels sticks his fingers in his ears and attempts to tell all of the other coaches that they don't know what they're talking about, despite the fact that he's freely admitted on numerous occasions that they know and understand HD better than he does.

Personally, I find this turn of events stunning and unprecedented.
3/5/2010 11:57 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 3/05/2010

What don't you understand here?

The other team had better talent, so saying they have no business to beat you or shoot well is absurd. 60% beyond the arc...give me a break...I wasn't playing -5.

You put together a bad game plan, failing to adjust from your first meeting. Why would you adjust the gameplan when you won the first game on the road by 21...against a sim no less?

It's pretty simple, and it wasn't even close to a ridiculous result. If it makes you feel better to cling to that ridiculous notion despite the fact that numerous experienced coaches have stepped in to point out the reality, well, I can't stop you from that. There are guys here that will attempt to explain away anything, and the fact that its me bringing this up probably has something to do with the responses as well. I think this is a clear case of the sim taking a s*** on somebody/me. I was up 14 in the 2nd half when the sim said "Hold on colonels, you're losing today". Given the team's record and the result of game 1...this result is rather bogus, and I think its clear to see where my frustration stems from.

Shooting 59% for a single game just isn't that crazy, particularly considering that the two guys that did it for him overmatched your guys.

You would adjust the gameplan even after winning the first time because there were some things that you did very poorly that you could've and should've corrected, like defending the three.

You're pulling out single stats like "If I told you that I won the TO battle by 11 ..." that are beyond meaningless. Simmy could say, "Could you believe I carved him up like that from 3p and barely won ..." One or two stats don't determine the game, it's a moronic thing to even attempt to point out.

And, oh yeah ... their team is better than yours.

And they have a better coach.
3/6/2010 12:01 AM
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I find this result extremely hard to stomach, regardless of the explanations that were given here. Just because you may have made some valid points here, doesn't mean that I should just accept it, say you guys are right, own this loss, and move on, because regardless...I still think this is something that shouldn't have happened...I guess I wish some people would see/acknowledge my side because I tend to get the vibe that certain people are always trying to defend the game...coachbillyg even admitted to this.
3/6/2010 12:03 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 3/06/2010
Shooting 59% for a single game just isn't that crazy, particularly considering that the two guys that did it for him overmatched your guys. It was considerably different from game 1...a guy with a 70 PER going 6-6 from 3 with a 0 played on defense?

You would adjust the gameplan even after winning the first time because there were some things that you did very poorly that you could've and should've corrected, like defending the three.

You're pulling out single stats like "If I told you that I won the TO battle by 11 ..." that are beyond meaningless. Simmy could say, "Could you believe I carved him up like that from 3p and barely won ..." One or two stats don't determine the game, it's a moronic thing to even attempt to point out.

And, oh yeah ... their team is better than yours.

And they have a better coach. ZING!

3/6/2010 12:05 AM
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I am arguably the very last person that always tries to defend WIS. I'm not sure if anyone over the last 3-4 years has been more openly critical and consistently pushed for more changes/improvements.

If telling yourself that's the answer gets you through the cold winter night, then so be it. But the truth is that you lost because your team isn't very good and you made a bad coaching decision. I can't fathom why you think this is such an unacceptable upset when your team isn't even more talented.
3/6/2010 12:06 AM
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Given how the first game went, this was all but marked a W. You wouldn't necessarily look to change things up when you won a game by 21...now if it was under 10, ok...21...going back home...chalk it up...oh wait.
3/6/2010 12:08 AM
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And let's not forget the fact that your 3pt defense stinks to being with. Despite playing a m2m, you've given up 38% shooting from 3p range against a ridiculously bad, sim-dominated schedule (275 SOS). So no, you getting lit up from 3p shouldn't be surprising to anyone who's actually paying attention.
3/6/2010 12:09 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 3/06/2010Given how the first game went, this was all but marked a W. You wouldn't necessarily look to change things up when you won a game by 21...now if it was under 10, ok...21...going back home...chalk it up...oh wait
Maybe that's part of why you're not a very good coach. Numerous top-level coaches in this thread have pointed out what they would've done -- what you could've done to win. So you hear how the top-level coaches would've responded/changed, and you see what you chose to do.

You need to do what 95% of these coaches did to become top-level coaches in the first place: Listen to other top guys and emulate them rather than argue with them and stick with your methods that don't work.
3/6/2010 12:10 AM
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