WIS Brings Steroids Back to HBD? Topic

Bravo.
3/19/2010 2:28 PM
WIS' Reply

I guess they want me to do more research, though I don't get paid for such things. ;-> Here's their reply:

3/19/2010 8:52 AM Customer Support
Arlen,

That may be the case for one world. Please check out the following link and specifically look at the HR/G. That is the value that holds meaning for us and it is currently right where we want it.

http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Main/WorldSnapshot.aspx

You can use the drop down menu to view it week by week to see any fluctuations.


Maybe I'll get to this, to analyze. It shouldn't take long, but it's not what I get paid to do. If anyone else wants to compare their Home Runs per Game numbers with this last season's in MLB, feel free to post.

And whatever this does, the world I pay for (among others, very likely, if not all) gets messed over.
3/19/2010 11:54 PM
Quote: Originally posted by travisg on 3/19/2010
Quote: Originally posted by ArlenWilliam on 3/18/2010Modeling the gradual changes of real MLB would be wonderful.
This is a computer simulation based on a number of complex variables, including unpredictable user choices. Each variable, which must first be programmed, affects the others in intended and unintended ways.

The best way to truly mimic gradual changes you seek would be to keep the dang environment set up the same over multiple seasons and let users accordingly adjust to it. This already happens in stable worlds full of experienced, knowledgeable owners. Tweaking the engine every season or two keeps even those owners, and certainly newer or less knowledgeable owners, from learning to make the necessary adjustments to succeed.
Talk about what you wish to. I'd be talking about comparing SLB with a moving average among the last five to ten seasons.
3/19/2010 11:55 PM
My response to WIS.

3/20/2010 6:33 AM ArlenWilliam
OK, here is the data...

Here is the present rate of home runs per game, in HBD: 2.424

Here is the rate of home runs per game in MLB for 2009: 2.076

In the Dirt example, there are are 36% more HR's this season vs. MLB in 2009 and 33% more HR's than in the prior season.

In HBD-wide results, there are 17% more HR's this season vs. MLB in 2009.

Also, the new amateur draft pool has just appeared in Dirt. My franchise has budgeted 14M each, for college and high school scouting. I show 8 more players coming into Dirt with HR projections of 95 or more. Under the present lively ball scheme in HBD, they could all be feasible to play in the major leagues as projected. "The hits just keep on coming!" ;-`

Your turn, please. How many home runs per game were occurring in HBD, before you re-boosted their production?
3/20/2010 6:35 AM
wow arlen, that ticket sounds SO dickish.

and you know that the snapshot page (linked one page 1) has all the data you're asking them about?
3/20/2010 6:41 AM
How can you compare the HBD home run rate with the MLB home run rate without also comparing the crap MLB pitchers to the crap HBD pitchers?
3/20/2010 7:48 AM
Quote: No one would care if SB rates were 1000% over ML because the "ratings would allow it" yet as soon as people find HR rates not being to their liking its whine whine whine...

Not true. We have a guy in Mordecai who has 1315 career SBs and has only been caught 33 times, and he's only 30 years old. I'd be stunned if he doesn't finish with 1700+ in his career, which is ridiculous.
3/20/2010 3:57 PM
Interesting that some owners get upset over distorted HR stats. But turn a blind eye to the even greater distortions prevalent in SB's, as pointed out by smoelheim. Why is that? Do they benefit from SB's, but are on the outside in terms of HR's?
3/21/2010 4:22 PM
HR/G is not the right measure to use, imo. The right measure is single season HR leaders. Are the top HR hitters hitting similar amounts of HR in HBD and IRL? Because I am quite certain that the 6-9 holes in HBD lineups are going to hit a ton more HRs than IRL. HBD managers love to stack marginal fielders with big bats in premium defensive positions, and will force DHs into the C or 1B position to hit in the middle of the order, thus pushing good bats futher back in the order, etc. So you're always going to see more HR/G in HBD, even when the sim is working properly. But is the HR lead around 75-80 in most HBD leagues? That might indicate a sim problem. But I'm really not seeing that.
3/21/2010 5:51 PM
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