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Quote: Originally Posted By Iguana1 on 4/07/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 4/07/2010
You think Crean has done that bad of a job? I think he has done a great job, especially when you take into account that he came in with 1 or 2 scholarship players on the team and lost their best player this past year.
I think the Hoosier faithful are looking for something, anything positive, on the recruiting front. There have been a few high profile locals that Crean has missed out on. And the followers of the crimson and cream can't believe all 5-star recruits don't want to attend Indiana. Next season's recruits really aren't even up to a MAC standard school.

That's a bit of an exaggeration. Indiana has two Top-150 players coming in next season (according to Rivals). Total number of Top-150 players that have committed to MAC schools: Zero.

4/7/2010 12:41 PM
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If Crean doesn't make the tournament next year, is there going to be talk of getting rid of him? I really have not payed any attention to the situation.
4/7/2010 12:43 PM
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Dunlap wont even be considered for the Oregon job.
4/7/2010 12:53 PM
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I don't care how much someone "loves" their job or enjoys working in their hometown, if you are offered a raise of almost 5x your current salary...

I love the ignorance of the talk about the crappy PAC-10. 09/10 was definitely a down year for the PAC, but look at 08/09 and 07/08. Right up there as the best or 2nd best conference in the country. Just because the ESPN propoganda machine promotes the Big East and ACC doesn't mean hoops out west is crap.

4/7/2010 1:37 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by sull21858 on 4/07/2010I don't care how much someone "loves" their job or enjoys working in their hometown, if you are offered a raise of almost 5x your current salary...I love the ignorance of the talk about the crappy PAC-10.  09/10 was definitely a down year for the PAC, but look at 08/09 and 07/08.  Right up there as the best or 2nd best conference in the country.  Just because the ESPN propoganda machine promotes the Big East and ACC doesn't mean hoops out west is crap.   

NCAA tourny performance was pretty good.
4/7/2010 1:58 PM
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The Big East definitely appears to be overrated. If you look at Sagarin's conference ratings for the past 10 seasons, and take a 10-year average, the Big East ranks 5th amongst the Big 6 conferences (just a hair behind the Big 12 and Big Ten, who are essentially tied). The PAC-10 ranks 6th, a significant ways back of the Big East. The ACC is 1st by a fairly wide margin, with the SEC being 2nd.

4/7/2010 2:03 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By cthomas22255 on 4/07/2010
Quote: Originally posted by sull21858 on 4/07/2010
I don't care how much someone "loves" their job or enjoys working in their hometown, if you are offered a raise of almost 5x your current salary...

I love the ignorance of the talk about the crappy PAC-10. 09/10 was definitely a down year for the PAC, but look at 08/09 and 07/08. Right up there as the best or 2nd best conference in the country. Just because the ESPN propoganda machine promotes the Big East and ACC doesn't mean hoops out west is crap.



NCAA tourny performance was pretty good.
You referring to the Big East?
4/7/2010 2:18 PM
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Kenpom Ratings

2010

#3 Big East

#6 Pac 10

2009

#1 Pac 10

#3 BIg East

2008

#2 Pac 10

#4 Big East

2007

#4 Pac 10

#5 BIg East

3 of the last 4 years, the Pac 10 has been the better conference.

4/7/2010 2:21 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By brevnov on 4/07/2010
Please name the 'high profile' locals Crean has missed out on?

Indiana class of 2010 produced 2 top 100 players. Deshaun Thomas, ranked between #6-#18 went to Ohio State. Terence Jones, ranked #46 by Rivals went to Purdue. The third ranked player, Russell Byrd was ranked just outside the top 100 and is going to Michigan State.

That's 0/2, or 0/3 if we count Byrd for 2010.

Indiana class of 2011 is a strong one. It looks like around 7 top 100 overall. #2 over Marquis Teague is down to Kentucky/Louisville. #10 Michael Chandler is going to Louisville. #49 Ryan Taylor is also going to Louisville. #68 Darwin Davis is headed to Xavier.

That's 0/4 on the 2011 committeds.

There also appear to be three additional top 100 from the state of Indiana that are undecided; Branden Dawson #16, Cody Zeller #35, Jeremiah Davis #40.

I think there's pressure on Crean to at least land one of those three remaining. He should be able to promise them all the playing time they can handle.

4/7/2010 3:04 PM
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Cody Zeller is not that good...

But you do bring up a vaild point Iguana but you are takling about just in-state recruits - I have not looked at their classes at the time of posting this but does it really matter who you recruit if you win? I will take a look at his classes later and see what i really think but He has recruited some solid players that have shown promise his first few years, they were just young and injury plagued this year and last.
4/7/2010 3:18 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By oldresorter on 4/07/2010
Quote: Originally posted by zhawks on 4/07/2010
He will be the next head coach at... BUTLER!

He isn't going anywhere.
my son said the offer at oregon will be 2.5M, making 500lk right now, that is pretty hard to turn dow
I HIGHLY DOUBT THEY WILL PAY HIM 2.5 M HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH HE MAKES AT BUTLER, 1ST OFF THE INFO IS PROABLY WRONG CAUSE IF HE IS EVEN TALKING TO ANYONE THE MONEY WOULD BE KEPT SECREAT TILL THE DEAL WAS DONE.. WHY WOULD HE WANT TO MOVE FROM HIS HOME STATE INDIANA AND MOVE HIS FAMILY TO OREGON OF ALL PLACES.. THE LAND OF RAIN RAIN AND SNOW.. AND DA IDOITS WHO SEEM TO THINK IT IS A GOOD TIME TO GO ROCK CLIMBING IN A BLIZZARD.. MONEY ONLY TALKS TO THOSE WHO ARE GREEDY AND UNHAPPY, IF HE HAPPY AT BUTLER AND BEING TREATED RIGHT WHY WOULD HE WANT TO LEAVE THE PERFECT PROGRAM FOR NOTHING BUT RAIN 250 DAYS OF THE YR AND SNOW THE REST OF TIME, OH YES HEY COACH ITS SNOWING UP ON THE BIG MOUNTAIN LETS GO ROCK CLIMBING SO WE WILL GET LOST AND HAVE TO HAVE RESCUE PEOPLE COME SAVE US.
4/7/2010 3:24 PM
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I can't believe that people are already talking about tossing Crean. That program was in horrible shape when he took it over-- he's pretty much had to start from scratch and has only been there two years. Unbelievable.
4/7/2010 3:25 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 4/07/2010

But you do bring up a vaild point Iguana but you are takling about just in-state recruits - I have not looked at their classes at the time of posting this but does it really matter who you recruit if you win? I will take a look at his classes later and see what i really think but He has recruited some solid players that have shown promise his first few years, they were just young and injury plagued this year and last.




Remember that his 2009 recruits were mainly guys that followed him and had been recruited by him while at Marquette (Creek, Watford, Jones).

Getting this Indiana job was supposed to open the flood doors on the 5-star recruits into Bloomington. Many Hoosier supporters veiwed the program as still being one of the Elites.

I'm just saying, Crean's recruiting hasn't been equal to the other BigTen teams, let alone to a program viewed locally as an Elite. Louisville is still coming into Indianapolis and getting the top talent.

Time will tell how patient the boosters are even if Indiana plays .500 ball next year. Crean's a heluva PR guy.
4/7/2010 4:00 PM
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4/7/2010 4:27 PM
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This article from WRTV in Indianapolis says Stevens currently makes about $400,000. In another article, I saw the figure $350,000 quoted, but I can't find that one.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/23077250/detail.html

4/7/2010 4:33 PM
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