every top tier team goes after 1 and done players, they have to go to college because the NBA says so, it just so happens that more than 1-2 are going to one school, you all need to realize your favorite teams are recruiting these same players, and your just hating cause your coach is losing out on them because UK offers more than your schools. get over it, if you wanna complain about 1 and dones, im all for changing the rule, (i am a big UK fan) but the nba has to change it. saying that UK is ruining college basketball is nothing short of retarded, other wise we can just go ahead and say that calipari, roy williams, coach k, bill self, rick pitino, ect are ruining it. as they all recruit 1 and done players. and for the record, every player at UK including all freshman, are finishing out there college years- with plans to finish in the future, in fact, there are 4 former Cats at UK finishing their degrees as we speak. some of you speak out of your *** when you talk about these things. if you wanna be taken seriously you need to be objective, UK is not the only school taking 1 and done players. so instead of bashing them only, you need to condemn all the other ones that are as well, uk, ku, baylor, texas, unc, ohio state, tenn, florida, id say UL but they dont seem to develop them there lol, and others.

oh and my guess is, your fans with a team that either is taking a 1 and done or has since that rule has passed.

i wanna know where all you retards were 3-4 years ago when these players were going to all these schools, not named UK.

which is why i think this is all just a jealous rage, haters hate the most when you are on top.

Quote: Originally posted by dreamweaver2 on 4/25/2010oh and my guess is, your fans with a team that either is taking a 1 and done or has since that rule has passed.

i wanna know where all you retards were 3-4 years ago when these players were going to all these schools, not named UK.

which is why i think this is all just a jealous rage, haters hate the most when you are on top.

This is why I hate kentucky fans. You are in no way on top. No way. Duke is on top. You just made the elite 8 you idiot and have been a complete failure for the last few years. Your last championship was in 1998. Get a clue, people are not hating on you because you can make an elite 8, people are hating on the shady methods of making said elite 8.

Michigan doesnt recruit one and doners (mostly because we can't bring in that kind of talent)!

you took being back on top so literal, even ESPN has stated we are #1 all time, that is what i meant by that statement, we are back in our rightful place in college basketball, you dook fans always think you are, but guess what, you were pretty irrelevant before the 90s, and even then, you were always in UK and even UNCs shadow.

yes we had a few down years, but we were top 5 all year, and even ended the final poll 5th. we are back that is why the haters are out hating like they are.

duke, unc, uk, ku, texas, tenn ect all take 1 and done players , and all have some shady parts of there past, but the past is the past, we are back and competing again, the fact is, that scares other fans because they know that UK has that staying power that no team in history has been able to show

@tkimble-its one thing when you try and fail, its another when you know you couldnt get them if you tried.

oh, and i challenge mr dook fan here, tmac, to give me one shred of evidence that shows that UK has cheated in any way, you supply the evidence, il mail it to the ncaa, and watch my favorite schol get the death penalty, - its also shocking that of all the teams fans that would complain would be a dook fan, with your coaches shady past when it comes to recruiting.

did i say there is evidence that you cheated. no. I did say Kentucky is a shady program right now. Coach Cal, shady. The whole Lebron thing, shady. Hiring that assistant coach with 4 DUIs, shady.

Its hilarious how you are trying to have an argument with me. I don't know why I am bothering with you.

1: Nice use of the word Dook. Thats awesome dude.

2: Nice use of the word retard. Lets make fun of people who have serious problems, you are a big man.

3: Nice reference of that supposed fact that you are the number one program ever. Oh wait, UCLA has 11 championships. That ESPN thing is the biggest joke in the world, it was based on a formula and had several extremely questionable teams in high spots.

4: Duke was irrelevant before the 90s?
1960: Elite 8
1963: Final 4
1964: Championship Game
1966: Final 4
1978: Championship Game
1980: Elite 8
1986: Championship Game
1987, 88, 89: Final 4
Is that enough success buddy.

Get your facts straight, then come back with a real argument. Duke has been the most successful college basketball program in the last 20 years. Get over it.

coach cal, shady= ok prove it.
lebron thing? = made up by UofL fans,- agian id like to see some proof
coach strickland should be fired for having another dui. (the reason he was hired is his past 2(and only 1 where he was convicted ) was off his record because it had been more than 10 years. i think it is a personal choice a coach makes weather to give someone a change that has a checkered past, but if cal didnt someone would have.

as for the ESPN thing, at worst we could be #2, il give Ucla there credit for most titles, cause thats what matters most. but even that has been proven to be full of cheating. so, i ask you again dook fan, where is your proof that we (uk) have cheated with coach cal, i challenge you to give proof that cal ever cheated-- ever.

even the more crazy thing, your hack of a coach wont even play us in a regular season game, he wouldnt even play us when we were down, but news flash we are back, we are here to stay, get used to it.

dook has been the most successful program over the last 20 years? UK/UNC/KU/Michigan state all would like to talk to you about that.

also, as for your beloved dook, coach k has just as much shadyness as Coach cal has in his past, corey maggette ring a bell?

lol you are an idiot how do you expect me to respond to that. Coach K is as shady as Coach Cal? Only a UK fan would say that.

So now lets put out some facts, which you can never seem to do.

Duke: 19 NCAA Tournaments, 7 Sweet 16s, 1 Elite 8, 2 National Championship Games, 4 National Championships.

Michigan State: 17 NCAA Tournaments, 4 Sweet 16s, 1 Elite 8, 5 Final 4s, 1 Championship Game, 1 Championship

Kentucky: 18 NCAA Tournaments, 3 Sweet 16s, 6 Elite 8s, 1 Final 4, 1 Championship Game, 2 Championships

Kansas: 20 NCAA Tournaments, 6 Sweet 16s, 3 Elite 8s, 2 Final 4s, 2 Championship Games, 1 Championship

North Carolina: 17 NCAA Tournaments, 1 Sweet 16, 1 Elite 8, 6 Final 4s, 3 Championships

So with the facts, it is obvious that Duke and UNC have been the most successful programs in the last 20 years. It is close between them, Duke has been more consistent but UNC has had more Final 4s. I would still give the edge to Duke, but obviously im biased.

You don't have to prove shadiness, it is a trait given to someone when they are constant suspensions of cheating (again I didn't say he actually did, are you paying attention)

Also you keep telling me to prove UK has cheated. I never said they did, you are a moron.

its just as garbage for you to claim that cal is shady, as for me to say the same thing about your beloved coach k, that was my point, you can make up all the **** you want, but it does not make it true, the rose situation is questionable, but so is the maggette situation, and so is ole roys situation at KU, fact is, all major coaches have had a shady something happen in there past.

that sir, is fact.

For you to claim that Coach K and Coach Cal are even near the same level of shadiness is an absolute joke. Want proof of the national reception?

Google Coach K is Shady

In those results, none of the pages mention coach k being shady in any way. The closest thing is who do you despise more, Coach K or Coach Cal.

In fact, you somehow get 2 Coach Cal is shady pages in the first 10.

Now google Coach Cal is shady

ALL OF THEM ARE ABOUT COACH CAL BEING SHADY.

Get wrecked.

And before you ask for proof, there is none. Shadiness is a perception and Coach Cal is perceived as shady.

oh i didnt realize that google search results were your source to determine the shadiness of a coach, i even agree that all the above coaches have some shadiness in there past, Coach K has his shady past too. you cant deny that any more than i can deny cal has some.

and i googled your pathetic coach and 6 of the top 10 things were mostly linked to the maggette situation, as well as a page comparing coach k to lane kiffen.. so 7 of 10 articles..

i even got 3 of the same articles when i googled coach cal is shady, (articles that stated they are the most shady coaches in college basketball)

mostly the same for cal 7 articles..

then agian this is all irrelevant, as both coaches have questionable pasts. and i dont see how a google search that shows 10 pages proves one is better than the other.

not to mention the amount of coaches who will hire someone to land that one recruit, cal has done it, pitino has done it,roy has done it, k has done it, id consider this a shady practice as well..