Both of my point guard options have yet to be drafted, if they both make it to me then I'll be taking both (I'd have over 4 mil remaining) For the first time in a while I am confident about my team building skills.

"The only piece of this team I question is Battier, it’s not hate him as much as it is that I think you could have done better."

thanks, malone, for your evals. nice to see another go at it from someone new. well, battier gives me solid def and lots of 3's. but basically, i had to go with him because of usage. 11.9 was what i was looking for. anything more, and jordan, anfernee and gasol would suffer immensely. right now, starting 5 is at 107% usage... just enough room for jordan to do his thing

malone9975 – Larry Bird, Kevin Love, Robert Parish, Darrell Walker, Deron Williams

I do not feel comfortable rating my own team.  It has nothing to do with morals or ethics.  I just personally, as a fan, like all of these guys which is making me feel as though I will not be able to be objective about this squad.

love is the only big man i would pick in the 2nd round of a 52 mil draft with lousy def (not even nater goes in the 2nd). this guy is gangbusters. troy murphy used to hold this lofty position until seble cut him down to size and put a 90% sf tag on him. now, love is the beast. boards, 3's, ft% and efg%. nice. very nice. and you teamed him with mr. indiana state. i love these guys who shoot solid 3's, meaning, accurate 3's... not tons of them like mookie and others. i have been a big fan of parish, and many of his seasons are fits in a 52 mil league. he even has a solid def season, but probably one to avoid in this league. parish can handle orebs better than love, so there is symmetry between the two of them. deron williams was the steal of the draft so far. hard to believe he fell that far to you. that is the true miracle on 34th street! but then, darrell walker. yeah, i know there are lots of owners who like this guy, but i am not in their camp. u needed a few more 3's to round out the starting 200 u had. didn't need many, just 40 or 50 more. then you'd have had everything. some def, some 3's, some boards, and some efg%. now, well, you have a cold sore on a beautiful jessica alba face!. but DW (oh, u have 2 dw's... walker, i mean) brings dimes, def and boards. all good stuff, i suppose. but he also brings poor efg%, no 3's, and an overall, ho-hum effect. haha. but i'd pay good money to see deron dish it to love and bird, and bird dish it to parish and deron. cool club.

A-

		Name	Team	Pos	Usage%	2pt%#	3pt%#	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%	Stl%	Blk%
		Tom Boerwinkle	70-71 Bulls	C	16.7	50.3	34.2	50.1	12.7	32.1	19.1	1.8	3.8
		Kris Humphries	10-11 Nets	PF	17.5	52.5	0.0	52.7	11.7	30.0	5.6	0.8	2.4
		Connie Hawkins	67-68 Pipers	PF	21.0	52.8	30.5	52.0	8.3	17.9	11.8	1.3	1.7
		Tracy McGrady	02-03 Magic	SF	35.4	48.3	38.6	50.5	4.3	13.7	18.7	1.9	1.2
		Jason Kidd	09-10 Mavericks	PG	14.6	41.7	42.4	55.4	1.8	14.8	31.8	2.3	0.7
		Mark Landsberger	79-80 Lakers	C	18.3	51.3	0.0	51.6	16.8	27.1	3.5	0.9	0.8
		Dan Gadzuric	04-05 Bucks	C	15.8	54.0	0.0	53.9	16.0	25.6	2.2	1.2	3.5

Minutes:

2370 + 1510 = 3880 * 1.02
2061 + 1783 = 3844 * 1.02
3308 * 1.02
2955 * 1.02
2881 * 1.02

defense:

62/25
59/53
59
64
82

I have the perfect guy to back up tmac and will spell Hawk for a few minutes each game.  I'm fairly certain nobody has ever drafted him, so I'll be okay.  Going to end up 1250 or so minutes overboard, but not much I can do anymore.  Not the best team I've ever put together, but it fits with my original goal.  We'll see how many games tmac can shoot us out of and how many he can keep us in.

24) badja - Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, Charles Oakley, Horace Grant, Emeka Okafor, Jason Terry, Andre Iguodala

Iggy! I love it. One of my favorite players(yes I'm a Sixers fan) and not too bad in the sim(considering you use the season you should) since he can do so many different things(like that amazing A/T ratio). Tiiimmmaaaaay doesn't seem to be on a lot of winning teams but I think most of the time owners make the mistake of having him be the highest usage guy on the team. You're a greedy bastard for gobbling up two of the best rebounding/defending SFs in Oakley and Ho Grant, who somehow made it to the 4th round. Emeka is a favorite of mine. 53%, 12/25, 73D, and 4.3 fp48 is a steal in the 6th. Terry is a great fit since you really didn't need a ton of assists from your PG. Great on the boards, great at defense, usage is spread out nicely, fouls/turnovers shouldn't kill you....yea this looks like a playoff team to me.


23) sixernuggets (2) - John Stockton, Swen Nater, Rick Barry, Willis Reed, Hersey Hawkins, Jon Barry, Caldwell Jones

Hate to say it Sixer but you were headed for the lottery(if we had one...hey why don't we? that would be pretty cool) as soon as you made that Nater pick. Stockton may be the best player on the team, but he's still a support player. So is Nater. And who are they supporting? Rick friggin Barry. I know the FT attempts and high PPG look nice and all but the low efg% should have been the stat you paid the most attention to. It's a shame too because you got a steal in Reed in the 4th. He fits nicely next to Nater and covers for him on defense. Barry/Hawkins are great shooters but they push Barry down to the SF spot and now you have a problem on the boards. You aren't getting any at all from the guards and Barry is very weak at SF. You had much better options than Caldwell as far as boards go, so that makes you even weaker in the games most important stat. Weak boards + a low efg% #1 scoring option = no playoffs every time.


22) ashamael - Jason Kidd, Tracy McGrady, Kris Humphries, Tom Boerwinkle, Connie Hawkins, Mark Landsberger, Dan Gadzuric

Wow...well the first thing that jumps out at me is the rebounds. The foursome at the PF/C is scary good(gonna be cleaning up T-Mac misses all game). Kidd/Mcgrady/Hawkins all rebound their positions well too. The other thing that stands out is the fact that Ash basically said, "Defense? You need it now? Nah I'm not buying into all that. Watch this." So far so good I guess. You got the boads, the assists, 3s(I'll assume....scratch that...I know you're gonna add more), and a legit #1 scoring option in McGrady to rely on. I'm a huge fan of Hawkins and will be curious to see if you use his 1900 season or the 3300 one. Add one more scorer to help McGrady and Hawkins(shouldn't be a problem) and I really like this team.....for the ODL. Sure, this will probably be a playoff team anyway and McGrady will be going off for like 38 a game, but in the playoffs when you run into teams that can score with you I don't think you'll get enough stops to win it all.


21) dh555 - Ben Wallace, Chauncey Billups, Manu Ginobili, Bob McAdoo, Danny Granger, Paul Silas, Jamaal Tinsley

I like the fact that I am going to be deadly from 3 and should get to the line at will. The assists are good and so is the defense. I just don't the overall feel of the team. Billups/Manu/Granger can be wildly inconsistent and I'm not sure what I'll get from McAdoo(wish he was more paint than mid). I'm also playing Silas at SF were he is only 97%, although I don't think that will be a huge problem. Even with 23 more minutes to spend on rebounds I think I will be at a disadvantage on the glass against most teams. I still expect to make the playoffs but I think my chances of repeating are unlikely with this team.  

I am not going to do anymore evals since dh is doing them, and probably better at them than I am.  I forgot that this is the league where the champ has to do evals, I always get this and ODL confused

i doubt anyone will complain if you wanted to do some as well....im certainly not gonna...the more the better

You got most of it, dh.  But if you actually look at my defense, I have no weakness except when Lands is on the floor.  Otherwise I'm 59+ with everybody else (82 with Kidd).  I've been dominating leagues recently by dominating efg% and staying close on possessions.  This team is pure possession control with reb% & tov% and will be close on efg% (though I think I'll be ahead of most teams with the obscene amount of assists I'm running).

24) badja - Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, Charles Oakley, Horace Grant, Emeka Okafor, Jason Terry, Andre Iguodala

Iggy! I love it. One of my favorite players(yes I'm a Sixers fan) and not too bad in the sim(considering you use the season you should) since he can do so many different things(like that amazing A/T ratio). Tiiimmmaaaaay doesn't seem to be on a lot of winning teams but I think most of the time owners make the mistake of having him be the highest usage guy on the team. You're a greedy bastard for gobbling up two of the best rebounding/defending SFs in Oakley and Ho Grant, who somehow made it to the 4th round. Emeka is a favorite of mine. 53%, 12/25, 73D, and 4.3 fp48 is a steal in the 6th. Terry is a great fit since you really didn't need a ton of assists from your PG. Great on the boards, great at defense, usage is spread out nicely, fouls/turnovers shouldn't kill you....yea this looks like a playoff team to me.


Thanks for the review dh!


w/ iggy @pg

dreb 97
oreb 40
ast 68
avg def 81

1200 to's, 1400 pfs in 18900


The bad, is not many 3's and inadequate boards against a team like ash's.  It'll be a fun team for me though, I hope.

The assertion that Ash is lucky is funny.  He just makes it look easy.  I've seen him draft from so many slots and it makes no difference.  He knows what works in the sim and drafts it.  I saw Gadz and Bullwinkle there and they were tempting, but I wanted more defense and usage down low.  We'll see.

Drafting at the bottom of this field is waaaaaay better.  I coulda had Kobe + TMac or Scottie and that would prolly have been better than Duncan.  Still like him though because there are fewer defenders in the paint than the perimeter. 

20) banditone - Chris Paul, Paul Pierce, Nate Thurmond, Chris Mullin, Bob Pettit, Kyle Korver, Toni Kukoc

I loved the first two picks. Pierce is one of the best 2 guards in the sim and teams with CP3 to give you a killer backcourt. But then you picked Mullin, who is better suited for the ODL, and NOT a legit SF. He's a SG and that means Pierce has to play SF, which ruins all the awesomeness of your first two picks. I can't really hate on Nate anymore since he was so solid for me last season but if you don't use that same season I did then I think it's a bad pick. Bob Pettit? What is he doing here? With CP3 and Pierce(not to mention Mullin) you didnt need anymore usage, especially from someone who shoots so poorly. Korver is another guy you didn't really need since Mullin/Pierce should be playing all of your SG mins, Korver's best position. I'm not liking this team at all, it looks short on rebounds and the usage is all out of whack. But Banditone has surprised before with an unorthodox lineup so maybe he has a master plan I'm not seeing.


19) 98average (2) - Hakeem Olajuwon, Elton Brand, Sidney Moncrief, Kirk Hinrich, Chris Andersen, R Balkman, Dale Davis

lf Ash is the offensive guru of the sim, then 98 must be the defensive guru. He had two great defensive teams last season that went deep in the playoffs and looks to be going for that again this season. This team is really stacked on D. But will it have enough offense? Hakeem can be a shaky #1 scoring option and Hinrich looks to be the only 3pt threat(although the bench could provide more). Assists look to be kinda low as well. The rebounding(should be really good on the oreb) looks to be very good with Moncrief in the backcourt and some combo of Brand/Birdman/Balkman at SF. I love Dale Davis. Such an efficient big who really hits the O glass for you.  If this team can score enough points it will be very dangerous. As it is, the defense and rebounding alone should get it in the playoffs.


18) 98average (1) - Gary Payton, Julius Erving, Bobby Jones, Kermit Washington, AC Green, Andrei Kirilenko, Paul Millsap

I could have wrote the same eval for this team that I used for 98s other team. Great defensive team, very solid on the boards(Dr. J is probably the best rebounding guard in the sim), only one real 3pt shooter, and the #1 scoring option can be somewhat shaky. This team has better passing though. Just like the other team, I think this team could make a deep run if this offense holds up. I was surprised AK47 dropped so late in this draft, he usually goes 3/4. 98 must have loved seeing that.


17) jakotay - Kevin Garnett, Jerry Lucas, Steve Nash, Carlos Boozer, Vince Carter, Kevin Johnson, Jayson Williams

Holy sh!t...look at this offense. If too much usage doesn't kill you this is gonna be a monster. Nash/KJ already made it a great passing team but when you throw in all the dimes from KG/Lucas/Carter/Boozer this becomes the drafts best passing team. Good amount of 3s and paint points and you got awesome offensive rebounding for when you do actually miss. Turnovers might be a problem, but that was to be expected when you go for this type of team. Normally I'd say that the Nash/KJ backcourt kills you on the glass but when you have KG playing SF it doesn't hurt you as much. Boozer/Lucas/Williams are all top notch boardmen as well. Poor KG is going to have to carry the defense though. This could be one of the worst defensive squads out there, although the good dreb% and low fp48 should help some. I'm not too sure what to expect from this team. I expect a lot of 145-140 games(assuming you run uptempo...and with this squad how could you not).


16) tarheel1991 - Karl Malone, Scottie Pippen, Walt Frazier, Samuel Dalembert, Ryan Anderson, David Lee, Nick Anderson

I love the scoring setup on this team. Mailman is the clear #1 and should get as close to maxing out his FTAs as possible. Pippen/Frazier are next in line with 3 point support from the Andersons and paint scoring from Sammy and David Lee. Even with no true PG(I consider Frazier a SG) there looks to be enough ast% from the Pippen/Frazier/Malone trio to be ok in that area. Malone always puts your team in an early hole with rebounds but the backcourt should help with that. Sammy/Lee are a good rebounding combo at C as well. Lee is horrible and Anderson/Dalembert are just average but the rest of the defense is pretty good. Overall this is just a real solid squad with no major flaws. I'd be surprised not to see them in the playoffs.


15) sixernuggets (1) - Bill Russell, Dirk Nowitzki, Brent Barry, Jerry West, Clarence Weatherspoon, Wayne Cooper, Todd Day

Well, I like this team a lot better than your other one but feel you made a huge mistake in round 3. Barry is a great player and all but with Dirk at PF I think the best move would be to get a SF who gets offensive boards, scores in the paint and can play defense. Bobby Jones and Ho Grant were both available. Put either of those two with Russell and Dirk in the froncourt and you're on your way to the playoffs. Dirk's poor D would be totally hidden, you'd have enough paint scoring, a great start on assists, 3s, and off to a good start on the boards. Weatherspoon is ok, but he's not nearly as good as those two. The stuff Barry gives you can be replaced easily in any round. I like the West pick, he can guard the other teams top perimeter threat and be a good #2 scoring option to Dirk. I have no idea what you were thinking with the bench picks. You can do waaaay better then those two guys. I don't see this team making the playoffs.

14) sappy - Artis Gilmore, Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire, Dana Barros, Mike Miller, Lamar Odom, J.R. Smith

Sappy you son of a *****....I really wanted my boy Amare to be my teams paint scorer. Of course I also wanted to pair him with Walton, who I should have known I wasn't gonna get in the 3rd round. I've gone on before about my sim-crush on Amare so I don't really need to say anything else...he's a beast. I like him between Artis and Marion as well although it sucks Artis doesn't guard PFs. I would have really loved that front line if you backed them up with some low usage oreb%. Instead you went with Odom. I don't get that one at all. You already have Marion to play SF so why was Odom needed? Barros is still one of my favorites but he does hurt you on the glass(you were already behind with Amare) and I don't like relying on him alone for assists. Deron was a much better pick here. With Miller/Smith at SG you have no shot of stopping teams with explosive backcourts. The efg% is awesome and you should shoot yourself into a lot of wins but I think the rebounding and defense might have you missing the playoffs.


13) tricky24 - Dwyane Wade, Dikembe Mutombo, Larry Nance, Chris Webber, Raja Bell, Chris Dudley, Peja Stojakovic

I have a new found respect for Wade after seeing him carry me in the playoffs last season. He can literally win games by himself. After Jordan/James he may be the next best guard to build around. However, I don't like him as the only assist man. Bell can drain 3s and play great D but he doesn't do anything else at all. Webber has one good season I like, but only at SF. Since you already had Nance(kind of overrated as a rebounding SF too) there I don't like the Webber pick. Mutombo is really gonna have to carry this team on the boards. Peja will provide nice shooting off the bench but doesn't help with the rebound or assist problem. The defense is looking awesome(depending on what Webber you use) and you have a ton of blocks. Wade + defense worked well for me last season but I just don't think he has the right supporting cast this time around to get it done.

14) sappy - Artis Gilmore, Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire, Dana Barros, Mike Miller, Lamar Odom, J.R. Smith

Sappy you son of a *****....I really wanted my boy Amare to be my teams paint scorer. Of course I also wanted to pair him with Walton, who I should have known I wasn't gonna get in the 3rd round. I've gone on before about my sim-crush on Amare so I don't really need to say anything else...he's a beast. I like him between Artis and Marion as well although it sucks Artis doesn't guard PFs. I would have really loved that front line if you backed them up with some low usage oreb%. Instead you went with Odom. I don't get that one at all. You already have Marion to play SF so why was Odom needed? Barros is still one of my favorites but he does hurt you on the glass(you were already behind with Amare) and I don't like relying on him alone for assists. Deron was a much better pick here. With Miller/Smith at SG you have no shot of stopping teams with explosive backcourts. The efg% is awesome and you should shoot yourself into a lot of wins but I think the rebounding and defense might have you missing the playoffs.

Thought about D Will instead of Barros for D and Assist. The Odom Pick was based on Assist. I thought I was so low on them. I still think my weakness is D and Assist. However I dont win very often in these leagues so I was going for people I dont use much and focusing on eFG%. I am concern about the Odom pick because my minutes are taken care of with 1.6 mil left to spend. Anyway I think the eval is dead on I just hope you are wrong about playoffs.

Okay DH what's my final grade? I figure that a B or B+ out of you (at least) would be a cool and unexpected Christmas gift LOL!

12) katernberg - David Robinson, Elvin Hayes, Gerald Wallace, Grant Hill, Brandon Roy, Charlie Ward, Danny Fortson

The mad German made the surprise pick of the 2nd round by going with the big E. I'm guessing it was for the defense? DRob/Hayes is a beastly combo down low on defense but Hayes is a sim-killer for a reason. His efg% with high usage and below average rebounding made the Admiral uncharacteristically curse out loud when you made the pick. Wallace was great value in the 3rd round and makes this team even better on defense. Defense is about the only thing I like on this team.  There's too much usage drafted. DRob deserves the ball more than that. Just an average rebounding team, and depending on how Hayes does, could be a bad one. And of course Grant Hill is the highest usage player on the team, that's never good. Grant Hill + Elvin Hayes = a sad Admiral and no playoffs


11) logain - Shaq, Oscar Robertson, Alonzo Mourning, Wesley Person, Anthony Mason, Arvydas Sabonis, Ed Pinckney

Well done for taking the risk of playing Mason at SF(96%). I think it will pay off. He was also the perfect fit to round out my favorite starting 5 in the league. Getting big O as late as you did was a huge advantage. He's way too good to fall that far. I don't think Zo's usage was too much for that 3rd round pick. Shaq is still going to eat first in the offense and it set you up to take two awesome lower usage players later on. Your big three also all get to the line a ton. Person balances out the floor nicely and Mason gives you the ast% and dreb% you needed. Great on both sides of the ball with good rebounding and passing. Just a all-around great starting unit. The bench confuses me. I like Pinckney(although a better dreb% big man would have been nice) but the Sabonis pick? 96% I can see, but 90%? Why not just draft a big man that can play PF? If not for Sabonis this would probably be my favorite to win it all.


10) malone9975 - Larry Bird, Kevin Love, Robert Parish, Darrell Walker, Deron Williams, Landry Fields, Hot Rod Williams

How the hell does everyone keep forgetting about Deron? I think maybe PG's are the fantasy football TE's of this draft. After a quick run of the elite ones, everyone just wait til the end to grab one while they stock up on RB's(big men in the sim). Huge steal for Malone. The Love/Parish combo is just awful on D but it would have been tough to pass on both of them when you did. Hot Rod was a great bench pick as he can make up for some of that poor D while covering 3 positions. I like the Walker pick since you were already getting 3s from Love and Bird. You didn't need any usage there at all and Walker was the perfect guy. He doesn't take anything off the table and adds great boards and passing. Deron/Bird/Walker is gonna make this already great shooting team even better. Should be one of the best offenses. If the frontcourt D holds up this team should dominate.


  9) vancem - Kareem, Clyde Drexler, Marques Johnson, Terry Porter, Joel Przybilla, Alvin Robertson, Erick Dampier

Drexler was a very good 2nd round pick but I don't know if I pass up the chance to have a Kareem/Durant combo going for 60 a night. Marques is a guy I'm not totally sold on. He's got great adv stats and is certainly worth a 3rd round pick, but I never see him perform all that well in the sim(or maybe it's just cause he did bad the one time I used him), He puts up ok numbers but it always seems like more 13/7 games than 20/10 games. Porter is another guy who underwhelms imo. But again, he's got great adv stats and is totally worth a 4th rounder. Dampier/Przybilla is a sick rebounding combo and adds to the already high efg%. The one knock is that both are about a 50 on D and will always be stuck on the PF. That could be a problem when you face a Barkley or Malone. Robertson is a great all around player but he adds a lot of fouls and turnovers while not shooting any 3s. I don't disagree that you probably wanted a bit more usage with that spot, but why not pick an efficient 3pt shooter instead. Still, getting his rebounds and defense along with the ast% will definitely help. This is definitely Kareem's team and I like how you surrounded him. He should be a beast for you. I think if Marques/Porter/Alvin step it up some this could be one of the best teams.

Posted by vancem on 12/20/2011 5:56:00 PM (view original):
Okay DH what's my final grade? I figure that a B or B+ out of you (at least) would be a cool and unexpected Christmas gift LOL!

nah no grades....but i will be grouping the teams into tiers and picking mvps and stuff like that when im done the evals