Nicely said.

couldn't agree more. total bs. and now the big east has 3 vacancies that will probably be open until they're trash.

yeh would be nice if I could get freaking C+ Seton Hall from a B Yale, but it was a Keep Looking and I didn't fit their requirements so I guess I can wait until the sim destroys them even more before I "qualify" for that stinkhole

#saveD1

Watch Phelan D1. If owners do not come back, it will be teams left out and slowly getting destroyed by SIMS.

Posted by the0nlyis on 12/27/2015 9:35:00 AM (view original):
Iowa State and Fresno State were step backwards.

Seton Hall was keep looking and rejected.

If I stay at Yale I probably won't repeat with 3 striaght NT bids after 1 down season, I could see 1 NT bid and 2 PI bids maybe 2 NT and 1 PI.  At this point since I am B prestige does it make sense to stay at Yale?  Will staying help get anything better like B- to B jobs?

Patience is in order, brother. You only have 5 division I seasons on your resume, and the first two were understandably undistinguished. And you quickly came to DI without winning a DII Tournament game. The DII games are on your resume and relevant to the hiring process. Because you raced through divisions, you need a good 10 seasons at DI to have a strong resume. You just need to play the game longer so your first two DI seasons and your DII career drop off of your resume and keep winning and opportunities will line up for you. Good luck!

Yeh I know I should have patience like everyone else has but it really sucks that I'm just being "punished" for not having played the game long enough I clearly have proven my D1 ability in 3 seasons, and counting my first 2 against me really sucks because of the way HD works its impossible to turn a program around sooner without taking over one with previous human recruits.

I shouldn't have to wait 10 freaking seasons to be considered having a good resume I literally can't do anything else it;s incredibly rare to go S16 or farther from a low prestige especially early on from a D- school, heck it's rare to even make the 2nd round early on from a D- school and I did it in back to back seasons against Big 6 programs.  So what to show my experience I just have to continue making the 1st and 2nd round over and over until I've done it enough times....

Yeh my D2 resume sucks and I can't help that (i hate D2 which is no excuse), and it would be nice if my D3 NC appearance counted but thats 11 seasons ago.

Sorry if that sounds aggressive towards you, it's not I your teams in high regard and am not upset really losing the job to you, it's more not even qualifying for crappy Seton Hall, I just get very upset with this dumb process and the decision to focus on recruiting instead of the job process because I don't care if recrutiing is easier at Yale i don't want to be at Yale for 10-15 seasons when it won't make a huge difference I'd rather have a job logic that isn't dumb and doesn't make me wait 10+ seasons for any decent job while there is no big 6 openings of worth or obtainable since making the PI every 5/6 seasons is enough to keep a program on the same level as a low end school making the NT every season.

, I'll probably be banned from sending in support tickets too lol, and Im pretty sure I will at some point be banned from the forums most likely due to something related to D1 job logic at some point.... and I'll pretty mich post the same thing here every time since it feels nice to rant about it over and over.  of course I now fully expect that I will get my first Big 6 job within a few months and will never make the NT and struggle and survive to keep my job by getting the occasional PI bid and thus became my ultimate worst enemy the ****** Big 6 coach.

theOnly : Patience is the virtue. You will get it soon enough. I know it's frustrating, but it's all about stategy. From what I know now, staying at DII until you get a big six jobs might be the best decision. Or move fast from DII to a low-end D1 and stay there until something opens up. It is what you are doing now. But you need to be in an almost empty conference to have it worked at low-end D1. You almost need to win the CT every season because the other teams are dragging your RPI down and you do not have good enough players to compete against other human teams in your non-con Schedule.

To improve job logic, some moves could be made.

1) When someone leaves a job, the team could drop half a letter in prestige.
2) You could think of two turns. On the first turn, nothing really changes from what is happening now. On the second turn, teams get more logical and soften their criterias a tiny bit.
3) Get some firing going. Put some criterias and implement it.

But I think making it too easy would kill the point of this game. It has to remain tough.

the jobs logic should be tweaked to avoid having vacancies at the more desirable places. there's really no sense in making people wait out an obligatory number of seasons. of course not just anyone should be able to apply and get an A job, but the logic is jacked up when almost every job that isn't a premier one has to drop to C or so for them to be available outside of the same pool of veteran coaches. having success over a 5-season period ought to be enough, because that means you had to at least have some success with your own players. honestly, i still kind of think that any jobs that are still vacant on the last day of the jobs process should be available to anyone who wants them, assuming no one better applies. having a revolving bunch of dying sim programs is silly and isn't good for anyone. it would be better to have easier/wider access with correspondingly tweaked firing.

yeah, 22 seasons of lowish D1 and just went through an annoying job hiring phase in Phelan.  Granted I'm not setting the world on fire, and not lots of B- or lower Big 6's open (Oregon was available to me but went to someone else).  So so hard to keep a lower D1 above B-/B to try to move into a Big 6 opening.  

I am in the same situation you are guyo26. I was interested in a 4-23 Oklahoma State team with a B rep and am not qualified. Unfortunately the way its set up now any decent team pretty much turns to crap before anyone can get them. I have no clue if I would even be successful with an OSU but I do want to try. Actually I was at that level at one time and stopped playing for several seasons.

Question. I'm coming off a 28-2 season at Houston in Smith (Conf title, Conf coach of the year, NT bid, ect.) Five seasons at Houston, now at a C+. Over 20 seasons in DI, still have yet to have a chance at a big 6 school. This year I have a few "keep lookings" and two "step backwards" big 6 opportunities. My question is: should I in fact do whatever it takes to get to a big 6 school regardless if the team and prestige is worse than my current school? Please advise.

I think in most cases you're better off taking the "Step backwards" to get to *any* Big 6 job, then working on your resume there to try to get to a higher Big 6.

It's possible to do well enough to get a high tier open Big 6 job, but the deck is very stacked against you.  In general you have to take one that's on the downside and build it up.  BUT you get the advantage of Big 6, so usually lots of extra cash, etc.

Even at 28-2, NT (I assume first round exit?) you're never getting a B+ or higher Big 6 open job I would say.  For that you'd need a few Sweet 16's I'm guessing, and that's so so hard to do from a low D1 school.

If you have step backwards, go for it. Some Keep looking are actually longshots and I know some longshot stick, so it's possible to get a Keep Looking but the odds are slim. When choosing a big six team, I'd always check the base prestige. And then the location.

yeah, you need more NT bids (and wins) to get better opportunities. you can either take those bottom of the barrel big 6 jobs and try to build them up (which is really tough) or keep building at houston and try to get some NT wins there and hope a better opportunity comes along.