He asked you to change your O/D because he didn't like going against it?

For real? That's weird if so.

Posted by Benis on 7/11/2017 8:56:00 AM (view original):
He asked you to change your O/D because he didn't like going against it?

For real? That's weird if so.

Unfortunately, I no longer have the message as sitemails are only kept for a short period of time or I deleted it. Otherwise I would've posted it.

Posted by Benis on 7/11/2017 8:56:00 AM (view original):
He asked you to change your O/D because he didn't like going against it?

For real? That's weird if so.

So yeah, he was like something to the effect of "now that you have a better team, now is the time to switch over to man to man" Like he was trying to run my team or something or manipulate into doing something that I wasn't interested in. Not a direct quote, but something to that effect.

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/11/2017 8:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 7/11/2017 8:21:00 AM (view original):
It's cheating for sure since you purposely acted to get an edge and never told a soul. The guy hiding in the list, knowing it will be cake to get a player because the vh team feels it has no competition so it does not use resources is also cheating. Sniping a guy at the last minute when you are showed in the condidering list, like Alabama supposedly has done, and that I have done(to pcclark Providence) is not poaching but a recruiting strategy.

Unfortunately, since now I'm done with MikeT, you're the next person I'm going to throw under the bus.

You are nothing but a whiny little *****. This has reached Day 3 and you are crying like a little child. If you ask anybody in conference chat, they will tell you it was talked about and in fact I had discussed it with 8 of the coaches in our conference. They site mailed me directly. Were you just not paying attention?

At this point, I don't give a flying **** if you think if it was cheating or not. I'm the only one that you called out, which tells me one thing. You are ****** off because Wake Forest is starting to get the upper hand on Clemson and you can't seem to accept that. You had even site mailed me about a month ago trying to convince me to switch over to something other than a fastbreak offense and fullcourt press defense, because you go with a 9 or 10 player team. You've even admitted hated playing against my team in the conference chat the season before. What kind of bullshit is that? Who does that? Seriously.

You've admitted to trying the redshirt thing yourself, so don't come onto the forums playing the victim card.

*Edited(I'm only in a debate with zorzi right now. All other arguments will be ignored)

The Wiz : I am respectful. So I won't get angry. I fear playing any good teams but I prefer getting beat by solid teams like yours than to be in a SIM conf. I am not as good as you at this game (too time consuming) so I have no problems WFU catches us at Clemson. It's good for the ACC. As for fb/press, it's tough on us when we lack depth but I manage, it's a challenge. You truly do not understand how I value your contribution to the fun of me playing. I only play in filled conf and I am never the best coach. I accept every challenge except at Alabama where we suck. What you did was cheating but I like you anyways because the game need competitors. Beating you in the ct was a blast!

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/11/2017 8:49:00 AM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 7/11/2017 8:21:00 AM (view original):
It's cheating for sure since you purposely acted to get an edge and never told a soul. The guy hiding in the list, knowing it will be cake to get a player because the vh team feels it has no competition so it does not use resources is also cheating. Sniping a guy at the last minute when you are showed in the condidering list, like Alabama supposedly has done, and that I have done(to pcclark Providence) is not poaching but a recruiting strategy.

And I didn't say Alabama cheated, that never came out of my mouth. In fact, it was fair game. Frowned upon, but fair.

My issue with you is you have attacked me for the last 3 days. You haven't attacked anyone else that exploited the redshirt glitch. You haven't attacked anyone that exploited the considering list bug. This is hypocritical on every level.

Sitemail me the names. I haven't seen anybody else and beach doing it is common knowledge.

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/11/2017 9:02:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 7/11/2017 8:56:00 AM (view original):
He asked you to change your O/D because he didn't like going against it?

For real? That's weird if so.

So yeah, he was like something to the effect of "now that you have a better team, now is the time to switch over to man to man" Like he was trying to run my team or something or manipulate into doing something that I wasn't interested in. Not a direct quote, but something to that effect.

Lol. I prefer you beat me with your arsenal.

Posted by Benis on 7/11/2017 8:56:00 AM (view original):
He asked you to change your O/D because he didn't like going against it?

For real? That's weird if so.

Very weird.

Posted by zorzii on 7/11/2017 9:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/11/2017 8:49:00 AM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 7/11/2017 8:21:00 AM (view original):
It's cheating for sure since you purposely acted to get an edge and never told a soul. The guy hiding in the list, knowing it will be cake to get a player because the vh team feels it has no competition so it does not use resources is also cheating. Sniping a guy at the last minute when you are showed in the condidering list, like Alabama supposedly has done, and that I have done(to pcclark Providence) is not poaching but a recruiting strategy.

And I didn't say Alabama cheated, that never came out of my mouth. In fact, it was fair game. Frowned upon, but fair.

My issue with you is you have attacked me for the last 3 days. You haven't attacked anyone else that exploited the redshirt glitch. You haven't attacked anyone that exploited the considering list bug. This is hypocritical on every level.

Sitemail me the names. I haven't seen anybody else and beach doing it is common knowledge.

So why didn't you rip beachhouse?

Zorzii is fine with the RS glitch being used. We know this because he was in that May thread discussing this topic, and actually tried utilizing the RS glitch himself. He just doesn't care if it's abused by only 8 WE points and by a team that doesn't affect him. Of the May thread participants, he's the only one acting all self-righteous, and writing poems and ****.

For all we know, he's being all self-righteous because he may have popped up his players' WE's 5 ir 6 points artificially, which is just low enough to not be noticed and provide plausible deniability. Who the f--k knows at this point.

I've never played in a World with Wizard. But i recognize his name because of an attack thread against him probably back in 2014. His Phelan Hartford team made a Final Four run. I can't search threads easily from my phone, but i remember a bunch of similar self-righteous entitled Big Six d-bags complaining about Wizard's great run. If anyone is bored they should look it up.

Posted by npb7768 on 7/11/2017 9:15:00 AM (view original):
Zorzii is fine with the RS glitch being used. We know this because he was in that May thread discussing this topic, and actually tried utilizing the RS glitch himself. He just doesn't care if it's abused by only 8 WE points and by a team that doesn't affect him. Of the May thread participants, he's the only one acting all self-righteous, and writing poems and ****.

For all we know, he's being all self-righteous because he may have popped up his players' WE's 5 ir 6 points artificially, which is just low enough to not be noticed and provide plausible deniability. Who the f--k knows at this point.

I've never played in a World with Wizard. But i recognize his name because of an attack thread against him probably back in 2014. His Phelan Hartford team made a Final Four run. I can't search threads easily from my phone, but i remember a bunch of similar self-righteous entitled Big Six d-bags complaining about Wizard's great run. If anyone is bored they should look it up.

NPB : I never used the thing. I thought, for the 10x times I am telling you, it was a one shot thing or a Rumor. Check my teams, you will not find anything.

TheWiz is a great coach, I asked him to join the ACC so we could strengthen our conference. I hope he stays but his players get reset at what they would normally be. Having him like other good ACC coaches will put us at VG as a conference which is really important in recruiting.

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/11/2017 9:14:00 AM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 7/11/2017 9:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/11/2017 8:49:00 AM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 7/11/2017 8:21:00 AM (view original):
It's cheating for sure since you purposely acted to get an edge and never told a soul. The guy hiding in the list, knowing it will be cake to get a player because the vh team feels it has no competition so it does not use resources is also cheating. Sniping a guy at the last minute when you are showed in the condidering list, like Alabama supposedly has done, and that I have done(to pcclark Providence) is not poaching but a recruiting strategy.

And I didn't say Alabama cheated, that never came out of my mouth. In fact, it was fair game. Frowned upon, but fair.

My issue with you is you have attacked me for the last 3 days. You haven't attacked anyone else that exploited the redshirt glitch. You haven't attacked anyone that exploited the considering list bug. This is hypocritical on every level.

Sitemail me the names. I haven't seen anybody else and beach doing it is common knowledge.

So why didn't you rip beachhouse?

I don't condone what Beach has done, his players should be reset too. If theWiz learned from Trump mistakes, he would have said, I have made a mistake, it was clearly uncalled for, I am sorry I did not think this through. But he keeps saying he hasn't done anything wrong... The topic would be close.

That doesn't really answer the question. You've torn into thewizard, justifiably, but pretty much ignored beachhouse doing the same thing. It's come to light that you asked thewiz to change his O/D in your conference.

Surely you see how this makes you look really selfish and self-centered. It definitely appears that you only care because it affects you(which, as you know, I've accused you of before).

Maybe you and thewizard can get a group rate on counseling. Something is wrong with how your brains function.

^^^ Pot/kettle

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/11/2017 9:50:00 AM (view original):
That doesn't really answer the question. You've torn into thewizard, justifiably, but pretty much ignored beachhouse doing the same thing. It's come to light that you asked thewiz to change his O/D in your conference.

Surely you see how this makes you look really selfish and self-centered. It definitely appears that you only care because it affects you(which, as you know, I've accused you of before).

I never wanted him to convert... It's out of context. At the time, I thought FB/PRESS strat was a bad strategy, but theOnly proved it is actually great when you are doing it well. His reputation got higher using it, he was at a point where he could battle for EES players. I thought changing to another style would be less difficult recruitingwise since you do not need 12 players to make your team click. That was about it.

As for Beach, he is not defending the glitch as something to use to win.