Posted by CTCommodore on 5/27/2019 11:24:00 PM (view original):
Don't have as much experience as some of the other posters, but I usually look at D1 recruits who are either ranked 100+ at their position or unranked. I definitely think it's possible to get recruits ranked a little higher than that (have seen some top teams with players ranked in the 60s/70s), but I try to focus on recruits who aren't going to be a waste of time.

Some of the recruits who are lower ranked/unranked will honestly be a lost cause as well; you have to be cautious in D3 when a D1 level recruit seems like a grand slam. Either D1/D2 users will poach them or a D1 sim will pursue them aggressively at the start. I just learned that the hard way with a guy ranked around 150 for his position who got poached by a higher level user team, and I also lost the chance to pursue a couple backup options who will end up being great D3 players.

Don't get scared off by D1 sim coached teams, they are easy to knock off in RS2 provided they do not sign in RS1. You just need to hit them hard in the first cycle of RS2. Sim coaches are not aggressive . . . they do the bare minimum to get ahead on recruits, and once you beat them back to "moderate", they're basically out of the picture.

Position rankings can be wonky, as are overall ratings. I've seen guys ranked highly who I have no interest in at D3, and I've seen unranked guys who will be very good D3 players. You've got to look at their core ratings along with potentials (i.e "colors") and estimate their projections, keeping WE in mind when doing so . . . high potential but low WE often ends up in disappointment in the long run.

Posted by tecwrg on 5/28/2019 5:39:00 AM (view original):

Posted by CTCommodore on 5/27/2019 11:24:00 PM (view original):
Don't have as much experience as some of the other posters, but I usually look at D1 recruits who are either ranked 100+ at their position or unranked. I definitely think it's possible to get recruits ranked a little higher than that (have seen some top teams with players ranked in the 60s/70s), but I try to focus on recruits who aren't going to be a waste of time.

Some of the recruits who are lower ranked/unranked will honestly be a lost cause as well; you have to be cautious in D3 when a D1 level recruit seems like a grand slam. Either D1/D2 users will poach them or a D1 sim will pursue them aggressively at the start. I just learned that the hard way with a guy ranked around 150 for his position who got poached by a higher level user team, and I also lost the chance to pursue a couple backup options who will end up being great D3 players.

Don't get scared off by D1 sim coached teams, they are easy to knock off in RS2 provided they do not sign in RS1. You just need to hit them hard in the first cycle of RS2. Sim coaches are not aggressive . . . they do the bare minimum to get ahead on recruits, and once you beat them back to "moderate", they're basically out of the picture.

Position rankings can be wonky, as are overall ratings. I've seen guys ranked highly who I have no interest in at D3, and I've seen unranked guys who will be very good D3 players. You've got to look at their core ratings along with potentials (i.e "colors") and estimate their projections, keeping WE in mind when doing so . . . high potential but low WE often ends up in disappointment in the long run.

No, no. You need to put a Simmy at 'Very Low' or else they will continue to pursue the recruit.

“So do i likely have to spend my recruiting budget at Early RS2 just to keep ahead of him a little more?
Or Should i just spend my budget on The Last Cycle's of RS2 where i get off the "red light"?”

That’s a call you have to make on your own. Personally, I like to change it up, so I’m not predictable. It’s definitely an advanced tactic, because to make a good decision on timing of resources, you have to have a feel for how your rival is treating the recruit. Your D2 rival could be just tying to do enough to get into signing range once his red light lifts (which is right away in RS2). Or he might have a number of other recruits he’s heavily invested in already, and won’t be willing or able to invest in this one.

If you really want the recruit, he’s your top priority, and it won’t kill you to swing and miss (ie, you have some acceptable backups lined up), go ahead and swing for the fence that first cycle of RS2. At least you make the D2 team work for it a bit, which is good for the game. And if he doesn’t have enough left to do the number of visits it will take for him to get into signing range (that number will vary depending on preference, promises, and attention already invested), then you’ll get your target (unless someone with more juice comes along, of course). If he does have enough, you’ll be out all those resources, so know the risk.

Posted by zagsrulez on 5/28/2019 9:42:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/28/2019 5:39:00 AM (view original):

Posted by CTCommodore on 5/27/2019 11:24:00 PM (view original):
Don't have as much experience as some of the other posters, but I usually look at D1 recruits who are either ranked 100+ at their position or unranked. I definitely think it's possible to get recruits ranked a little higher than that (have seen some top teams with players ranked in the 60s/70s), but I try to focus on recruits who aren't going to be a waste of time.

Some of the recruits who are lower ranked/unranked will honestly be a lost cause as well; you have to be cautious in D3 when a D1 level recruit seems like a grand slam. Either D1/D2 users will poach them or a D1 sim will pursue them aggressively at the start. I just learned that the hard way with a guy ranked around 150 for his position who got poached by a higher level user team, and I also lost the chance to pursue a couple backup options who will end up being great D3 players.

Don't get scared off by D1 sim coached teams, they are easy to knock off in RS2 provided they do not sign in RS1. You just need to hit them hard in the first cycle of RS2. Sim coaches are not aggressive . . . they do the bare minimum to get ahead on recruits, and once you beat them back to "moderate", they're basically out of the picture.

Position rankings can be wonky, as are overall ratings. I've seen guys ranked highly who I have no interest in at D3, and I've seen unranked guys who will be very good D3 players. You've got to look at their core ratings along with potentials (i.e "colors") and estimate their projections, keeping WE in mind when doing so . . . high potential but low WE often ends up in disappointment in the long run.

No, no. You need to put a Simmy at 'Very Low' or else they will continue to pursue the recruit.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

Posted by shoe3 on 5/28/2019 10:49:00 AM (view original):
“So do i likely have to spend my recruiting budget at Early RS2 just to keep ahead of him a little more?
Or Should i just spend my budget on The Last Cycle's of RS2 where i get off the "red light"?”

That’s a call you have to make on your own. Personally, I like to change it up, so I’m not predictable. It’s definitely an advanced tactic, because to make a good decision on timing of resources, you have to have a feel for how your rival is treating the recruit. Your D2 rival could be just tying to do enough to get into signing range once his red light lifts (which is right away in RS2). Or he might have a number of other recruits he’s heavily invested in already, and won’t be willing or able to invest in this one.

If you really want the recruit, he’s your top priority, and it won’t kill you to swing and miss (ie, you have some acceptable backups lined up), go ahead and swing for the fence that first cycle of RS2. At least you make the D2 team work for it a bit, which is good for the game. And if he doesn’t have enough left to do the number of visits it will take for him to get into signing range (that number will vary depending on preference, promises, and attention already invested), then you’ll get your target (unless someone with more juice comes along, of course). If he does have enough, you’ll be out all those resources, so know the risk.

Oh, so okay, so using resources even though i am not in my signing range does effect the DII team battle. Guess i'll spend some.

Posted by basoy6658 on 5/28/2019 1:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by shoe3 on 5/28/2019 10:49:00 AM (view original):
“So do i likely have to spend my recruiting budget at Early RS2 just to keep ahead of him a little more?
Or Should i just spend my budget on The Last Cycle's of RS2 where i get off the "red light"?”

That’s a call you have to make on your own. Personally, I like to change it up, so I’m not predictable. It’s definitely an advanced tactic, because to make a good decision on timing of resources, you have to have a feel for how your rival is treating the recruit. Your D2 rival could be just tying to do enough to get into signing range once his red light lifts (which is right away in RS2). Or he might have a number of other recruits he’s heavily invested in already, and won’t be willing or able to invest in this one.

If you really want the recruit, he’s your top priority, and it won’t kill you to swing and miss (ie, you have some acceptable backups lined up), go ahead and swing for the fence that first cycle of RS2. At least you make the D2 team work for it a bit, which is good for the game. And if he doesn’t have enough left to do the number of visits it will take for him to get into signing range (that number will vary depending on preference, promises, and attention already invested), then you’ll get your target (unless someone with more juice comes along, of course). If he does have enough, you’ll be out all those resources, so know the risk.

Oh, so okay, so using resources even though i am not in my signing range does effect the DII team battle. Guess i'll spend some.

Definitely affects the battle. You’ll be listed as moderate until you are able to sign the player, even if you are far in the lead; but the effort will help to keep the higher team out of signing range. The higher division team has a big advantage in only having to sneak into signing range to sign the player. That’s when the “leader” shows up as high instead of very high. It’s a higher division team that is not actually in front in terms of effort credit - is actually quite far behind - but is currently the only eligible team to sign the player; and since the vast majority of players will sign with an eligible team that has offered them a scholarship before the last 24 hours, this puts D3 teams at a big disadvantage when attempting to battle D2 or D1 teams. You basically want to be really sure that those higher level teams are treating the player as a low priority backup, and will not want or be able to invest much.