Posted by topdogggbm on 2/4/2020 4:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Sportsbulls on 2/4/2020 2:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by metsmax on 2/4/2020 12:01:00 PM (view original):
I believe that player performance deteriorates when allocated more than some percentage of distro.

My understanding is that distro actually operates - as I think someone noted - for the five guys on the floor at a given time.

SO, if your starters all set at 10....10-10-10-10-10

BUT at some point in the game three of your starters are out and the guys on the floor look more like 10-1-5-10-4 then each of the guys who show 10 as their number will be allocated 33% of the distro.

That doesnt determine what one should do, but folks should keep in mind that distro is applied in the moment and not as an aggregate calculation over the game

Agreed to this. Also, on a team last year I had a PG with +2 3PT frequency with 15 distro and a C with 25 distro at -2 3PT frequency and they shot equal amounts. Positioning and 3PT frequency and other factors play into how many shots people shoot. If your team is constantly getting played negative, your one 3PT shooter will shoot more. Stuff like that play into it.

I'm thinking this is classified under the "the PG touches the ball on every possession. So his distro is sometimes is wacky" theory.

I'm not sure the 3pt frequency is affected very much by the defense played against you. Unless they are set at 0 (I think). If they are at 0 I think the defense positioning can alter how many 3s are taken. But if a player is set at +2, he's forcing 3s as much as possible, no matter what. At least that's how I see it game thru my eyes.

The numbers you used above, 25 C and 15 PG.... you would know much more than I would, it wasn't my team. But it could've been impacted by WHO was subbed in. For instance, if those were your two highest distros, when the game began, the C took most of the shots. But if he was first to sub out, then your distro could've became 15-3-3-0-0 in favor of the PG and now HE took all the shots. (The "-3-3-0-0" was an example of other distros on his team. I do not know what they actually were).

It's things like this why distro can confuse some coaches

Sorry, I may not have been clear. I meant that 3PT frequency affects distro. Like a SG with +2 3PT frequency at 15 distro will shoot more than a C at -2 3PT frequency with 15 distro.

I don’t think 3pt settings affect distribution. At least I haven’t seen any evidence that suggests it. A guard with excellent ball handling, decent athleticism and LP, and distribution set equal to a low BH big will get more shots off than a typical big man, too. The engine seems to simply favor guards (more importantly, I think, guard skills, like ball handling) when deciding who takes a shot. Stamina is also obviously a factor.

Yea I'm not aware of 3pt frequency affecting distro either.

Posted by Sportsbulls on 2/4/2020 2:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by metsmax on 2/4/2020 12:01:00 PM (view original):
I believe that player performance deteriorates when allocated more than some percentage of distro.

My understanding is that distro actually operates - as I think someone noted - for the five guys on the floor at a given time.

SO, if your starters all set at 10....10-10-10-10-10

BUT at some point in the game three of your starters are out and the guys on the floor look more like 10-1-5-10-4 then each of the guys who show 10 as their number will be allocated 33% of the distro.

That doesnt determine what one should do, but folks should keep in mind that distro is applied in the moment and not as an aggregate calculation over the game

Agreed to this. Also, on a team last year I had a PG with +2 3PT frequency with 15 distro and a C with 25 distro at -2 3PT frequency and they shot equal amounts. Positioning and 3PT frequency and other factors play into how many shots people shoot. If your team is constantly getting played negative, your one 3PT shooter will shoot more. Stuff like that play into it.

I agree with others that say your 3PT settings don't have anything to do with what you observed. Guards have always been favored to take more shots in this engine than bigs and so there are times you need to over exaggerate the distro of your bigs in order to get them to take the amount of shots you'd actually like them to take.

Oh, maybe I'm wrong. I forgot who told me that a while ago.

What would happen if you had only 3 scorers,set at 70-20-10?

Does the 70 incur any kind of penalty? If so does anybody know how much of a penalty?
Lets say the 70 is significantly better than the 20 and 10. Could it still be worth it to feed him the ball that much?

Thanks.

I believe that admin has said that very high distro shares like that incur a penalty - I cant say if it was said, but I have the impression that if distro for one guy is over apx 1/3 of the distro his efficiency suffers. Likely a little at first, more if more. Others may have studied.

Second, keep in mind in that example that when those guys are each out, the one(s) who remain will be getting huge percentage distro

And when all three are out, the team will be running on 0-0-0-0-0 which means the engine will just do what it does.

Finally, that sort of distro is an invitation to opponents to consider a double team

There is a penalty. I think it starts when one player has taken more than 40% of the shots of the sum of the fga for players on the floor.

There is a penalty. I think it starts when one player has taken more than 40% of the shots of the sum of the fga for players on the floor.

my advice is dont fixate on the level of the penalty - just know that a degree of scoring balance is a good idea from many perspectives - check out the teams that are winning titles in your world

This is all fascinating stuff, but it leaves me with a question: If it’s all about (only) selecting who will take the most shots, then why is there an option to select what kind of defense you’re facing? I had assumed that it had something to do with BH/P ratings (give the ball to the better ballhandler if facing a press, for example). How does type of defense you’re facing affect how you structure your offense?

Good question, this what I do.

increase distro to my best scorers vs the press because they can’t double them
increase my 3 point shooters vs 2-3
increase my post scorers vs 3-2
increase (or switch positions to) who is being covered by a weak defender

but check whether that weak defender moves around!

Trentonjoe, I agree with your rules. I also tend to knockdown my pg distro vs the press.

Posted by ningles on 2/9/2020 12:42:00 PM (view original):
Trentonjoe, I agree with your rules. I also tend to knockdown my pg distro vs the press.

Really? Do you think they turn the ball over more during the possession?