This is James Tour.

He is a Jew.

He is a Christian.

He is a scientist.


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The Nanotechnologist & God - 2016 Lectures (with James Tour)

The Pascal Lectures on Christianity and the University
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I have in front of me a book. I have a few books in my library which interest me. My best apologetics are on the loan but can be easily retrieved. But I have in front of me a book entitled IN SIX DAYS. It's a compilation of letters from 50 different scientists, most with multiple degrees and PHDs and most currently working for government or University. Their fields include Biochemistry - Biology - Mechanical Engineering - Physical Chemistry - Mathematical Physics - Medical Research - Physics - Genetics - Organic and Inorganic Chemistry (Two different fields altogether) - Botany - Horticulture Science - Mathematics - Theoretical Chemistry - Geophysics - Zoology - Medical Physics - Astronomy - Meteorology - Geology - Chemistry - Hydrometallurgy and other fields in the world we classify as science. They all have one thing in common. They reject evolution and use their research to support their belief in a 6 DAY creation. They do not support the Gap Theory or Theistic evolution. Nor do they subscribe to the Day-Age Theory, Progressive Creation, the Framework Hypothesis, the Temple Inauguration view or any other view including Historic Creation. They don't believe in CREATION in spite of science....they believe in Creation BECAUSE of science.

I would hardly describe these people as flat earthers. I understand their positions and arguments. What I don't understand is the evolutionist without observational science telling us we should believe the latest and ever-changing theory or the latest model. Every time a Creationist points out "You can't do that because..." the evolutionist come back with yet another explanation to counter...none of which can ever be proven. It's nothing more than..Trust me...I'm a scientist. Well guess what? The rooms getting crowded.

Well, guess what. "A day is as a thousand years", is that not biblical?

or are you actually trying to claim that these particular scientists actually believe that the Earth was "created" in a period of time consisting of 6 times 24 hours (144 Hours!) which is completely ridiculous and I highly doubt that they are claiming that.

Any competent geologist can tell you (approx.) how long the various layers of sedimental soil (The Earth's crust?) took to accumulate.
The Colorado river performed magic (IMO) but it took eons (whatever those are) to do so. IF the creation theory is to be held up as valid----ANY idea of a DAY (in the Biblical creation) and a DAY (in our time and calendar) has to be acknowledged as completely differing time frames.

Otherwise it's as completely ridiculous as the concept of immaculate conception.
A humanly physical (Mary WAS a human, no?) impossibility. An idea as flawed as the Catholic Church itself.

I have in front of me a book, A collection of passages of wisdom and observation from an honest human reporter.

It is called "Dakotah"

It is brilliant, and moving.
It was written by the late Charles Bowden, perhaps among his final words.
It has import.
Y'all should read it.
Libraries still exist.
Visit one.

Posted by lostnfound74 on 6/20/2021 11:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 6/20/2021 11:24:00 PM (view original):
and we all know every word in the Bible is true

You have never studied it. but feel free to let others make your decisions for you

you have no idea what I have and haven't studied. You know nothing about me, except that I disagree with most if not all of what you post.
How ironic that you accuse me of letting others make my decisions for me.

Posted by DougOut on 6/21/2021 10:46:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 6/20/2021 11:24:00 PM (view original):
and we all know every word in the Bible is true

Like evolution?

where in the bible do they talk about evolution?

Posted by laramiebob on 6/21/2021 12:36:00 PM (view original):
Well, guess what. "A day is as a thousand years", is that not biblical?

or are you actually trying to claim that these particular scientists actually believe that the Earth was "created" in a period of time consisting of 6 times 24 hours (144 Hours!) which is completely ridiculous and I highly doubt that they are claiming that.

Any competent geologist can tell you (approx.) how long the various layers of sedimental soil (The Earth's crust?) took to accumulate.
The Colorado river performed magic (IMO) but it took eons (whatever those are) to do so. IF the creation theory is to be held up as valid----ANY idea of a DAY (in the Biblical creation) and a DAY (in our time and calendar) has to be acknowledged as completely differing time frames.

Otherwise it's as completely ridiculous as the concept of immaculate conception.
A humanly physical (Mary WAS a human, no?) impossibility. An idea as flawed as the Catholic Church itself.

Always consider context AND language when reading the Bible. "A day is" comes from 2nd Peter 3:8. Peter knows he is about to die. He is beginning to realize he probably won't see the return of Christ. He knows he will be gone soon and is warning the CHURCH of false teachers who are perverting the word given them by the Apostles. He also knows they are expecting the imminent return of Christ and so he is letting them know God has his own timetable. To God a day is as... He's saying...you may be waiting awhile.

That is not the case in Genesis. It's clear to me he is speaking of a 24 hour day. Also the phrase "evening and morning" are used with each day. Each day has a number. That would not be the case if they were not 24 hour days. Also the Hebrew word is YOM which is a literal 24 hour day. Outside of Genesis 1 the word YOM is used with a number 359 times. Each time it means an ordinary day.

Yes. I'm actually claiming these scientists believe in a 24 hour day creation. Science tells them that. The Colorado river was formed in a matter of months. Want proof? MOUNT SAINT HELENS. That occurred 40 years ago.

Posted by wylie715 on 6/21/2021 12:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 6/21/2021 10:46:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 6/20/2021 11:24:00 PM (view original):
and we all know every word in the Bible is true

Like evolution?

where in the bible do they talk about evolution?

Dear sir. If you can question if every word in the Bible is true....It's only fair to question if every or anything about evolution is true.

Posted by lostnfound74 on 6/20/2021 11:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/16/2021 9:06:00 PM (view original):
Oh, so GOD protects the USA? Umm, then what does the MILITARY do????

I didn't know lostnfound HATES THE TROOPS!!!!!!!1!!1!

You are pretty desperate..

Oh yes, and if I support Trump I am a bigot, a hater, and a racist

Such nonsense

If God is protecting the USA, why the **** do we have a military?

Posted by tangplay on 6/21/2021 2:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by lostnfound74 on 6/20/2021 11:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/16/2021 9:06:00 PM (view original):
Oh, so GOD protects the USA? Umm, then what does the MILITARY do????

I didn't know lostnfound HATES THE TROOPS!!!!!!!1!!1!

You are pretty desperate..

Oh yes, and if I support Trump I am a bigot, a hater, and a racist

Such nonsense

If God is protecting the USA, why the **** do we have a military?

That’s a stupid comment.

Leave people to believe what they choose so long as it does not call for or inspire hate and violence.

leave Doug and Newfoundland alone.

Posted by tangplay on 6/21/2021 2:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by lostnfound74 on 6/20/2021 11:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/16/2021 9:06:00 PM (view original):
Oh, so GOD protects the USA? Umm, then what does the MILITARY do????

I didn't know lostnfound HATES THE TROOPS!!!!!!!1!!1!

You are pretty desperate..

Oh yes, and if I support Trump I am a bigot, a hater, and a racist

Such nonsense

If God is protecting the USA, why the **** do we have a military?

Time and again God blesses a nation that obeys him.

I'm trying to think of a nation that doesn't have a military.

Daniel 2:21 And he changeth the times and the seasons; he removeth kings, and setteth up kings:

I find it quite revealing Israel was reborn after nearly 2,000 years. God used the Romans to make the initial dispersal and various others since then. He used Germany to shine a light on the plight of the Jews. He used the Allies to defeat their enemies. He used Britain to set up the mandate with the approval of....RUSSIA. This was prophesied over 2,000 years ago in the Old Testament. Surrounded they prevailed and defeated their enemies. They brought back the shekel and the Hebrew language.

God uses whom he choses. It is not for us to question. Just ask Job.

"Yes. I'm actually claiming these scientists believe in a 24 hour day creation. Science tells them that. The Colorado river was formed in a matter of months. Want proof? MOUNT SAINT HELENS. That occurred 40 years ago."

I actually lived a few hundred miles from Mt. St. Helens when it blew. Was in the front yard and heard the explosion.
Went on to play in a softball tournament and didn't even know what had happened until later that afternoon.

Which is JUST ABOUT as relevant to the issue as is Mt. St. Helens eruption having anything to do with Earth's creation OR the Colorado River.

But IF you actually believe (and these so-called "scientists) that the Colorado river Gorge was somehow created in 6 Earth Days you are a complete lunatic. I make no aspersions on your faith or religion BUT that notion is as foolish as claiming Paul Bunyan did it.
REAL Scientists (much smarter about rocks and such than me) can easily PROVE (and tell anyone) approximately how long it took for the Colorado river to create its gorge. It's a LOT longer than 6 or 7 days. Like many thousands of years longer.

Perhaps even longer than it would take for a spermatozoa to travel to the womb of a female human being without insemination.
But not actually as the latter just can't physically occur as I mentioned earlier.

It may be unfortunate for some belief structures to accept but this notion of Immaculate Conception is nonsense.
IF Jesus was of human form He was not fathered by some God thru implantation.
lotsa folks think it was some space traveler and that Mary rose with expectant pleasure............ as one would expect.

EDITED to Add.
Lessen of course if the "space traveler" does it "doggie style" or some such other (unusual for many folks) method, then all bets are off.
Maybe that's what originated the practice of humming, how would I know? I wasn't there, believe me.

things'd be different for sure if'n I was powerful and all gawdlike.
Gravity wouldn't apply to breasts for (just) one thing.

The Colorado River was not formed in 6 days. You are confusing creation with the flood. Earth - 6 Days. Grand Canyon - During the Flood period which lasted about a year.

There's another one like it but a bit smaller. Mt. St. Helens.

If God can create the world in 6 days....He can preform Immaculate Conception.

How long did it take God to come up with mosquito, louse, and tick?