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Quote post by calhoop on 6/30/2026 1:27:00 AM:

140mm **deGrom remains the Same

In 1976, Led Zeppelin put out the concert movie “The Song Remains the Same”. Going down the alphabet, some pieces started to come together. This is what happened:
babe adams

Too bad that Zeppelin didn't foresee this theme and include Babe I'm Gonna Leave You on the soundtrack.
6/30/2026 12:38 PM
Posted by barracuda3 on 6/30/2026 12:38:00 PM (view original):

Quote post by calhoop on 6/30/2026 1:27:00 AM:

140mm **deGrom remains the Same

In 1976, Led Zeppelin put out the concert movie “The Song Remains the Same”. Going down the alphabet, some pieces started to come together. This is what happened:
babe adams

Too bad that Zeppelin didn't foresee this theme and include Babe I'm Gonna Leave You on the soundtrack.
You are so right!

I should have put an asterisk next to Babe Adams and added the footnote: * "Babe (Adams), I'm Gonna Leave You off the description column since you aren't in this soundtrack".

Thanks for the suggestion.

By the way, I always thoroughly enjoy your writeups. Good luck in Round 1.
6/30/2026 1:12 PM
I built most of these teams so long ago that I'm not sure remember all my rhyme-and-reason (and I somehow resisted the urge to tinker and basically went with my first crack at most of these), so here goes...

$70 MIL - Fries On A Sandwich
A nod to Primanti's, obvi... I've played a few $70M leagues recently thanks to dchase, though with not much success. After looking up the meaning of "lustrum", a name just popped into my head and that was my jump-off point: Paul Skenes. As a Tandem starter or bullpen option, I'm hoping his historical start translates to the WiS universe. I figured even the "small-market" Pirates were bound to have a decent low-cost option every 5 years, and that seemed to be the case for the most part. The defense is borderline frightening, and I'm going to have to hope I can stretch the IP and admirably manage the fatigue, but I'm hoping that my stars can shine and carry me.

$80 MIL - Mike Hessman All-Stars
A nod to the all time minor-league HR leader and real-life Crash Davis... Quick story: many years ago when Hessman was in the twilight of his career, he was in Triple-A and a bunch of my buddies rented a dugout suite that gave you an "enhanced" ability to interact with the players. As he was walking off the field in earshot of us, we gave Hessman a big ovation with one of the guys calling him a "Power-Hitting Fossil". He was good-natured about it and thought it was pretty funny. ANYHOO, as far as this team goes, it was not necessarily a challenge to get to the required HR threshold despite the price-point, but it will be interesting to see who's pitching can withstand the HR onslaught that is likely (if other leagues with similar requirements are any indication). My defense is (again) meh and I'm inclined to think my offense is going to have to over-perform for me to have any success. I do like my bench! (lol)

$100 MIL - Lovable Reunion
The podcast is great, BTW... This was an easy choice for me as I've been a lifelong Cubs fan (I mean, my youngest's middle name is Ryne). Hopefully the '16'ers will be competitive in this environment, but there were some amazing twist options available, notably Arrieta's generational season in '15 and Schwarber's monster year last season. Add some big-time twist seasons for Zobrist, Soler, Montero, Chapman, and Joe Nathan(!) and I'd really love to see this team have fantasy success that matches real life.

$110 MIL - St. Houston Tiger Twinkees
A: Tigers
B: Senators/Twins
C: Cardinals
D: Yankees
E: Astros

This one came together relatively quickly after a little bit of research. Huge offensive seasons from the emerging-from-the-deadball-era Tigers, the pitcher's era Cardinals, the Rivera-era Yankees with bullpen arms galore, the '19 era Astros that everyone loves to hate (cue trash can noise), and a splash of surprisingly quality Sena-Twins players, and this team has me intrigued. I'd like the back-end of my rotation to be better, but I'm hoping the bullpen can overcome that. Not very rangy on defense, but we should catch and throw it.

$125 Mil - Eagle Panda
Can you imagine a soft-fluffy bear with wings?!... I was in a couple of platoon leagues a while back, but unfortunately I'm not sure I built this team any better than I did those. Probably should've tweaked this one a bit, especially with improved positional flexibility, but hey...let it ride. I'm going with a tandem pitching staff and I'm hoping my bullpen's as ridiculous in fantasyland as it is on paper. I think one of my recurring themes in these builds is that I prioritized offense over defense. This one's not full barf, but it's close.

$140 Mil - I Once K'd Robb Quinlan
Despite playing for a Division III college, I had the opportunity to play in the Northwoods League against Division I talent before my senior year of school. (Juan Pierre is probably the most high-profile guy I competed against in that league...though I don't recall facing him.) My season highlight was making a spot-start against a line-up that featured Quinlan, taking a no-hitter into the 7th inning. I struck him out with a nasty hook in one of the at-bats. I believe he finished second in the MVP voting that summer, behind the SS who played for my team in Waterloo, IA. But I digress... I basically just started a list of the highest-profile names I could think of at each position and made a squad without any consideration of cost. From there, I whittled it down and made a few changes here-and-there, but frankly, it came together pretty quick. I did make an $80M team ahead of time to make sure it would work...but I'm sure that kiss-of-deathed me from advancing to Round 2. :) Fingers crossed!
6/30/2026 1:18 PM

alright... giving this a try... been so long and even my own notes are confusing me.

$140M: sesame street game
i love sesame street. recently watched a great documentary on it. when i was younger i wanted to work with jim henson. dream ended in high school with his passing. when i first saw this theme i started singing big birds "abcdefghi..." song.

thought process.
1. get pitching set. get big innings so i can have a small staff and leave a ton of freedom for the bats.
2. get high average bats. don't worry about home run power, but don't ignore power.
3. take a couple of stud bats that have usefull options at lower $ marks.
4. use many cheap bats rather than try and set platoons. that way if the crazy happens (round 2) i have a lot of options to set the bats up.

Roster:
a - 1919 Babe Adams long relief (one of 4 300+ ip on the team)
b - 1908 Mordecai Brown sp 1
c - 2005 Deivi Cruz cheep bench
d - 2023 Josh Donaldson cheep bench
e - 2008 David Eckstein cheep bench
f - 1927 Frankie Frisch second base and #2 hitter
g - 1995 Tony Gwynn left field and #6 hitter
h - 1933 Carl Hubbell sp 2
i - 2008 Chris Iannetta short side platoon catcher
j - 1896 Hughie Jennings short stop and leadoff hitter
k - 1949 George Kell third baseman and # 7 hitter
l - 2011 DJ LeMahieu cheep bench
m - 2010 Joe Mauer long side of plattoon at catcher
o - 1942 Mel Ott right field and #5 hitter
p - 1906 Roy Patterson bullpen
q - 1918 Jack Quinn bullpen
r - 1926 Babe Ruth first base and #4 hitter
s - 1912 Tris Speaker center field and #3 hitter
t - 2007 Jim Thome dh and #9 hitter
u - 2015 Juan Uribe cheep bench
v - 2001 John Valentin cheep bench
w - 2010 Randy Winn cheep bench
y - 1908 Cy Young sp 3
z - 1962 Don Zimmer cheep bench

$125M: Meritocracy Denier

i feel like this build would make many modern gm's happy. no stud starters. no stud bats. lots of interchangeble parts. no stars for the fans to get behind. so i leaned into that approach.

pitching: i went with 12 starting pitchers with between 100 and 200 ip. probably averaging about 125 ip/arm. no starters that could go deep all season. lots of "bulk arms." there will likely be 3 pitchers going each game. in a perfect computer driven approach they would pitch about 3 innings each and rarely facing oponents twice and never more than that. perfect way to destroy the merit involved with being a true starting pitcher. boo.

bats:
with the number of pitchers i have i can not platoon at every position. i also don't want to have weak players out there every day. solution- lots of guys in the 350ish-550ish pa range. to do this there needs to be some position flexability. some key players in that endevor:
*1928 foxx (c, 1b, 3b)
*2021 harper (1b, of)
*1899 lajoie (2b, of)
*1956 mcdouglad (2b, 3b, ss)
*1951 pesky (2b, 3b, ss)
*2011 sandoval (1b, 3b)

this team will need to be checked often. a vacation could wreck this team.

$110M: time will tell
i hated this build. not because it was bad, but because i missed things multiple times when first working on it. the minimum/ team killed some rosters i loved. not thinking about column e at that start killed some attempts. in the most amusing turn of events i ended up using what was almost my first build (with a couple of changes to meet the per team cost. every team i built did start with the giants for the first group and the pirates for the 4th.

A: 1920-1940 giants
(useful pieces)
1922 bancroft (ss, sh)
1923 frisch (3b, sh)
1931 terry (1b, lh)

B: 1940-1961 cardinals
(useful pieces)
1954 schoendienst (2b, sh)
1959 cunningham (of, lh)
1943 powlett (rp)
1944 munger (rp)

C: 1962-1982 astros
(useful pieces)
1981 sutton (sp)
1982 nikero (sp)
1972 gladding (rp)
1978 ruhle (rp)

D: 1983-2003 pirates
(useful pieces)
1985 reuschel (sp)
1992 bonds (cf, lh)
1999 giles (rf, lh)
1992 slaught (back-up catcher, rh)

E: 2004-2025 twins
(useful pieces)
2013 maur (starting catcher, lh)
1921 buxton (lf, rh)
2006 liriano (rp)
1923 gray (rp)

$100M: 14 and counting
i knew who i wanted right from the start for this one. 1914 boston red sox. tried a handful of others to check but came back to this one. it has lots of pitching options. it gives two stud bats and options for the others. downside... a lot of "exception" players (6) will leave me with a very weak bench.
1915 duffy lewis +1
1916 Les Nunamaker +2
1911 Joe Wood -3
1910 Ray Collins -4
1919 babe ruth +5
1920 Harry Hooper +6
1921 Larry Gardner +7
1922 Everett Scott +8

$80M: chicks did the longball at briggs
yes. lame name. i get it. i also hate reliance on home runs. in real life give me a gap-to-gap guy who hits some homeruns. i tried to create a team i liked. it never worked. so for this team i went with home runs and obp. i ignored ba... something very against my approach to most teams. i also went with pitchers who have swing-and-miss stuff without worrying about much else. not confident about this team at all.

$70M: long history
first build was last build. the only success i have ever had with a low-cap league is with the red sox. they have so many useful bats at low numbers. given my repeated failures at this level i just went with it. they also seem to come up with good pitching intermittently. i went through and filled my pitching staff first knowing that i would have plety of options for the field.




6/30/2026 2:49 PM
70M: Go Cubs Go!

Analysis: I figured I would pick the team where I could get the most bang for my buck for starting pitchers. I just ran a full search on pitchers that I felt had an appropriate number of innings at a reasonable salary and looked at which franchises offered the best options. From there, I would build offenses for the contenders and see which overall team I liked the most. Right out of the gate, I had my two finalists: The Cubs and the Giants. I really liked some of the rotation options from the Giants, as those cookie seasons from Joe McGinnity and Slim Sallee were calling my name. But after looking at my cap appropriate offensive options it was clear the Cubs were my team (Side note, there are way more Giants teams in my league than Cubs teams, so maybe I made the wrong decision?). For my rotation, I am going with my classic tandem style approach and found 6 arms that would pitch the bulk of my innings: ’26 Pete Alexander, ’06 Jack Taylor, ’05 Bob Wicker, ’36 Curt Davis, ’85 Dennis Eckersley, and ’16 Mike Prendergast. None are great, but all should be proficient given the overall lack of offense in lower caps. The bullpen features ’42 Warneke for bulk innings and ’11 Charlie Smith, ’92 Dennis Rasmussen, and ’24 Jesus Tinoco to pitch the leverage innings with a couple scrubs thrown in. The hitting was where I felt like the Cubs outdid the Giants. ’16 Ben Zobrist is automatic at this cap and ’88 Andre Dawson and ’54 Hank Sauer should provide some punch at Wrigley. Contributions from ’08 Ryan Theriot, ’73 Billy Williams, ’47 Bill Nicholson, and the rocket arm of catcher ’68 Randy Hundley should be at least league average.

Fun Fact: I flew out to Chicago and Wrigley Field for the first time this past April and saw a Cubs come from behind victory. I’m no Cubs fan, but it was cool singing Go Cubs Go and teaching my Fiancee about the tradition in real time. Her uncle is a bartender at Wrigley.

This Team Will Be Competitive If: My home run friendly stadium and lineup isn’t killed by dead ball pitching. If we don’t hit the ball over the wall with some consistency, we’re probably in for a long season

Confidence: B+

80M: Warning Track Meet

Analysis: It felt pretty clear there were going to be two clear strategies with this theme: Embrace the home runs or zig while the competition is zagging. I mostly went for the former option, with a couple exceptions. 3 of my favorite power bats are in this lineup in ’33 Babe Ruth, ’15 Gavvy Cravath, and ’46 Hank Greenberg. Putting ’19 Ketel Marte on you 80M team seems wise regardless of theme to generate some offense so I didn’t overthink that. From there I just added some power that I thought would translate well in ’87 HoJo, ’95 Tettleton, and ’17 Mike Zunino. I’m not true to myself if I don’t sneak Mariners legend Mike Zunino onto at least one team in this tourney and here was the obvious fit. For the pitching side of things, I concocted a strategy that I’m confident no one else would think of: Low BB pitchers who limit HRs as much as players could given the parameters. Genius, right? Hopefully the sarcasm comes through. I don’t need to list out all the modern pitchers on my staff, I know you likely looked through most of them yourself.

This Team Will Be Competitive If: I didn’t shoot myself in the foot by not drafting enough HRs. If I’m outslugged and lose a bunch of 9-7 games, we’ll quickly slide to the lower end of the standings.

Confidence: C+

100M: 1909 Cubs- Year 1 of the Curse

Analysis: Due to time constraints, I didn’t try many possibilities on this theme. Looking at who was commonly picked, I’m shocked I didn’t think of the 2021 Dodgers, considering I had 3 Dodger themed teams last year and used the 2021 team for last year’s twist theme. With that said, there are a few early Cubs teams, which is where my research led me (Though I’m using the 1909 Cubs and most others found the 1906 Cubs, did I miss something?). Th easily selling point was the pitching. The 1909 Cubs had great seasons from Mordecai Brown and Orval Overall, with solid bulk innings from Jack Pfiester, Rube Kroh and Irv Higginbotham (great last name). ’05 Ed Reulbach is my third anchor starter that came via the twist. The offense was almost entirely twisted. Good seasons from ’10 Sally Hoffman, ’11 Frank Schulte, ’12 Heinie Zimmerman, ’03 Frank Chance, and ’01 Jimmy Sheckard should put up a reasonable number of runs. The one concerning thing about these old dead ball teams is that I needed a ton of 300K exceptions, so I’m hoping I didn’t throw away good money that the Dodgers team likely didn’t have to. Here is my list of twists:

+1 ’10 Sally Hoffman
+2 ’11 Frank Schulte
+3 ’12 Heine Zimmerman
-4 ’05 Ed Reulbach
+5 ’14 Johnny Evers
-6 ’03 Frank Chance
-7 ’02 Pat Moran
-8 ’01 Jimmy Sheckard

This Team Will Be Competitive If: It can pitch well enough to get past the Dodger teams. Maybe some others I’m not giving enough love to. Either way, we’ll pitch pretty well, but hopefully that wasted money on scrubs doesn’t come back to bite me.

Confidence: B

110M: Tudor’s Down

Analysis: I’m really happy with the way this team came together. I started with the earliest era, thinking this would be the trickiest. I immediately latched on to the ’20-’40 Pirates, as they gave me a high-end starter in ’35 Cy Blanton, a rangy outfielder who can hit in ’21 Max Carey, and 3 leverage relievers in ’24 Babe Adams, ’31 Bill Harris, and ’27 Johnny Miljus. The next era that caught my eye was the ’83-’03 Cardinals. I added ace ’85 John Tudor (see team name), another rangy OF who can hit in super cookie ’90 Willie McGee, a solid DH in ’02 Albert Pujols who can hit the field if needed, and good reliever in ’93 Paul Kilgus, and bench scrub. Still looking for key pieces of my offense, the ’62-’82 Reds felt like a good place to find some talent. I originally had ’61 Frank Robinson as the anchor of the lineup, but it turns out I can’t read and the era actually started in 1962? Why did we do that again? Anyways, in an attempt to play by the rules, I switched to ’68 Pete Rose to give this team some hustle. ’69 Johnny Bench’s arm was welcomed, along with ’74 Joe Morgan, super reliver ’64 Bill Henry, and a good bench bat in ’78 Rick Auerbach. I knew I needed one more big arm starter, and the ’41-’61 Dodgers gave it to me in ’41 Whit Wyatt. I also added his 1941 teammates Dolph Camili and Johnny Allen. ’43 Fritz Ostermeuller can be used out of the bullpen in low leverage spots, and we also added a backup catcher here for low cost. That left the modern era with me needing a left side of the infield and some more leverage innings. I flirted with the Astros, but the Mets fit like a glove here. Another cookie in ’06 Jose Reyes and one of David Wright’s many quality seasons in 2005. ’22 Max Scherzer, ’22 Jacob deGrom and ’20 Erasmo Ramirez add critical bullpen depth

This Team Will Be Competitive If: Whit Wyatt and Cy Blanton are good enough to eat bulk innings at this cap. The bullpen should eat and this offense should be diverse enough to score runs. I just hope I’m not constantly trailing 5-3 while the crowd is singing take me out to the ballgame

Confidence: A

120M: 25 (Players) or 6 to 4 (Salary)

Analysis: This one definitely came together the quickest of any team. From an offense standpoint, it made sense to me (like so many others that have done write ups) that it would be wise not to waste any dollars with this theme. For me, that meant low-inning tandem starters and platoons. My three full-time offense players are ’19 Ketel Marte (The sky is blue too, huh?), ’20 Jose Ramirez, and ’90 Willie McGee. From there I just looked at the best platoon bats that fit the salary cap while also trying to balance the PAs so that the lefties would get a few more. I don’t feel like listing out all the platoon bats and arms because I know we all looked at the same names again here.

This Team Will Be Competitive If: I chose the right platoon partners. Pretty simple on this one. We all have a similar strategy, so I just hope I did it better than most others. Considering my relative lack of experience on this site compared to the titans I’m competing against, I won’t hold my breath.

Confidence: B-

140M: X Marks the Missing Player

Am I the only one who thought this was the toughest build by a mile? Balancing two themes at different caps with the same players and having the letter restrictions made this one a doozy for me. I attempted to build both at the same time and certainly didn’t punt the 80M theme, but I’ll set my expectations to be realistic should I be fortunate enough to make it to the next round. I’d like to say I had a defined strategy here, but I really didn’t. Just started with some anchors that I knew could carry my team at the 140M level and be useful at the 80M level. That got me about halfway through. From there it was a few hours’ worth of plug and play to see which non-scrub players I could get to make sense on both rosters given the letters I had left. Side note, I really wanted like 5 guys with the letter M, who would have thought that letter would be such bag of gold? Here’s what my final roster ended up looking like:

A- Babe Adams
B- Bill Bernhard
C- Gary Carter
D- Sean Doolittle
E- Steve Evans
F- Jimmie Foxx
G- Alfredo Griffin
H- Rogers Hornsby
J- Chipper Jones
K- Harmon Killebrew
L- Graeme Lloyd
M- Greg Maddux
N- Ron Northey
O- Mel Ott
P- Roy Patterson
Q- Kevin Quackenbush
R- Babe Ruth
S- Don Sutton
T- Fred Toney
U- Richard Urena
V- Omar Vizquel
W- Billy Wagner
X- N/A
Y- Kirby Yates
Z- Mike Zunino (Got him in twice!)

This Team Will Be Competitive If: My studs in Babe Ruth, Jimmie Foxx, and Rogers Hornsby all earn that nice chunk of change they’re making this season. Disappointments form any of these three guys like does us in.

Confidence: C
7/2/2026 3:46 AM
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