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raucous
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Mollohan lost because he voted to spend, spend, spend.

Bennett lost because of his vote for the TARP.

All lost directly because of the Tea Party movement.
5/14/2010 9:41 PM
raucous
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...and once again. Any of the people I know in the movement do not watch Fox News. Myself included.
5/14/2010 9:41 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by swamphawk22 on 5/14/2010The fact is that almost everyone thought Saddam was stockpiling WMDs. Since they used them before we knew they had them at one time. You know I can show 20 quotes from Democrats saying Saddam has WMDs and needs to be dealt with.

Wait...I thought all the Democrats opposed the invasion of Iraq?
5/14/2010 9:41 PM
raucous
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Check again. Quite a few of them voted for it.

"I voted for it before I was against it" - John Kerry.
5/14/2010 9:45 PM
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Oh. You're probably right.
5/14/2010 9:55 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By rlahann on 5/14/2010
Quote: Originally posted by swamphawk22 on 5/14/2010 The fact is that almost everyone thought Saddam was stockpiling WMDs. Since they used them before we knew they had them at one time. You know I can show 20 quotes from Democrats saying Saddam has WMDs and needs to be dealt with.

Wait...I thought all the Democrats opposed the invasion of Iraq
Before the war when it helped their patriot ratings a lot of them were talking tough. Some always opposed, I think Kucinich always opposed.

When the war started and they had to make the tough call most of the Dems seen a political game could be run, so they jumped ship.
5/14/2010 10:22 PM
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AP-GfK Poll: Only a third want own lawmakers back

May 15, 10:28 AM (ET)

By ALAN FRAM



WASHINGTON (AP) - People want Democrats to control Congress after this fall's elections, a shift from April, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll released Saturday. But the margin is thin and there's a flashing yellow light for incumbents of both parties: Only about one-third want their own lawmakers re-elected.
The tenuous 45 percent to 40 percent preference for a Democratic Congress reverses the finding a month ago on the same question: 44 percent for Republicans and 41 percent for Democrats. The new readout came as the economy continued showing signs of improvement and the tumultuous battle over the health care law that President Barack Obama finally signed in March faded into the background.
"To the extent that Democrats can focus on job creation rather than health care, they tend to do better," said Jack Pitney, a political scientist at California's Claremont McKenna College.
Democrats hold a 254-177 majority over Republicans in the House, with four vacancies, while Democrats control 59 of the Senate's 100 seats, counting support from two independents. Despite those disadvantages, the GOP has gained political momentum in recent months and its leaders hope to win control of at least one chamber of Congress this November.
Compared with the last AP-GfK poll in April, the survey showed Republicans losing some support among married women, a key component of many GOP victories. Democrats picked up ground among young and rural voters.
"I'm a new Democrat," said Harley Smithson, 51, of Baltimore, who said he had recently switched from the GOP. "I want to be with a party that's for something instead of against everything."
Even so, the poll underscores that the political environment remains ominous for Democrats.
Just 35 percent say the country is heading in the right direction, the lowest measured by the AP-GfK survey since a week before Obama took office in January 2009. His approval rating remains at 49 percent, as low as it's been since he become president.
Congressional Democrats win approval from only 37 percent, though congressional Republicans score an even drearier 31 percent. Democrats and Republicans are about evenly trusted to handle the economy, an issue Democrats once dominated and one that is crucial at a time when the country's job situation, though brightening, remains grim.
Only 36 percent said they want their own member of Congress to win re-election this fall, a noteworthy drop from the 43 percent who said so in April and the lowest AP-GfK poll measurement this year. Much of the restiveness seems to be among Republicans: While Democrats were about equally divided on the question, Republicans expressed a preference for a new face by a 2-to-1 margin.
"I want to send a message to Washington loud and clear that I'm not happy, I'm really unhappy, both with Republicans and Democrats," said Diane Mullens, 54, of Huntsville, Ala. "If that means I have to vote everybody out and make a stand with my one vote, I'll do it."
The poll was conducted more than two weeks after the Gulf of Mexico oil spill began and during the weekend of the abortive car bomb attack on Times Square in New York. The survey detected no significant changes in the public's trust in Obama for his handling of the environment or terrorism.
In recent days, the anti-incumbent wave has already spelled defeat in party primaries for a pair of Washington fixtures: Sen. Bob Bennett, R-Utah, and Rep. Alan Mollohan, D-W.Va. Other veterans such as Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., have announced their retirements, and Sens. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., and Arlen Specter, D-Pa., face primary challenges Tuesday that could add them to the political casualty list.
Among those most eager to turn incumbents out of office are the one in four who called themselves supporters of the conservative tea party movement. Two-thirds say they want a new person representing them in Washington, compared with half of everyone else.
"The Republican Party has more or less me," said Mike Miller, 40, of Republic, Mo., a tea party backer who wants a new member of Congress. "Everybody's shifted to the ." The AP-GfK Poll was conducted May 7-11 by GfK Roper Public Affairs & Media. It involved cell and landline telephone interviews with 1,002 randomly chosen adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.3 percentage points.
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5/15/2010 5:15 PM
raucous
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KILL THE ELEPHANTS INTO EXTINCTION!!!!
5/15/2010 5:17 PM
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That is why the Tea Party movement is working. They are giving Amerca a new choice.

Out with the entrenched Rinos and in with real fiscal Conservatives.
5/16/2010 2:09 AM
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Another day to rout out the incumbents.

ABC in their "neutral news" had the headline of Repug candidates exploiting the Tea Party in an effort for the status quo to stay in office.

Every Bush Repug is in trouble. The Tea Party is just changing politics in both parties.

If it wasn't for Bush, then Obama spending tons and tons of money for stupid sh*t, the tea party movement wouldn't even exist.
5/18/2010 9:57 AM
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And of course the Moderate Dem losing in Pennsylvania against a more liberal candidate isnt portrayed as a swing to the .

Watch at the difference in coverage between Spectre losing and Paul winning.
5/18/2010 12:59 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by raucous on 5/18/2010Every Bush Repug is in trouble.

I think you mean "every Republican to the of Jim DeMint".
5/18/2010 1:19 PM
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I don't think Spectre losing represents a swing to anything. He is the worst kind of politician, one whose views and allegiances change depending on what he thinks he needs to say in order to save his own hide.

If anything I would argue that Spectre losing represents a win for the tea-party crowd since it shows that incumbency, generally considered a huge advantage for politicians, is going to be an anchor for the coming election cycle. "Vote the bums out" seems to be the popular rallying cry these days.

I guess your comment above confuses me more than anything. On one hand you seem to be saying that you believe Spectre losing is indicative of a general shift to the politically (which plays into your conservative victim complex) but it won't be reported that way.

On the other hand, I am sure I can dig up any number of posts wher you talk about how the tea-party demonstrates that the people are trying to take back their government...and that this grass roots movement represents a move to the right politically.

So, I'm not clear on what you think is actually going on. More importantly I'd submit that this just shows that the perceived right/ dichotomy is totally artificial and an inherently flawed way to look at politics.

Just a thought...
5/18/2010 1:21 PM
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VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!!
5/18/2010 2:48 PM
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I think that when moderate Pubs lose to more Conservative candidates it is always covered with a negative spin. When the flip happens it is just covered.
5/18/2010 3:06 PM
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