Posted by moy23 on 5/4/2016 10:34:00 AM (view original):
I'm interested in seeing Trumps numbers in a few weeks, once Republicans and Republican leaning voters have time to grieve and come to terms that it's Hillary or Trump. That's their only choice. I predict Trump will improve his unfavorables by then.

Trump will improve his unfavorables by being civil. More Presidential. If he stays with "Crooked Hillary", he won't move the unfavorable needle.

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/4/2016 10:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 5/4/2016 10:34:00 AM (view original):
I'm interested in seeing Trumps numbers in a few weeks, once Republicans and Republican leaning voters have time to grieve and come to terms that it's Hillary or Trump. That's their only choice. I predict Trump will improve his unfavorables by then.

Trump will improve his unfavorables by being civil. More Presidential. If he stays with "Crooked Hillary", he won't move the unfavorable needle.

We disagree there. I think the names are sticking, and helping. Where he could be more presidential is not saying things like China is 'raping' us.

Posted by moy23 on 5/4/2016 10:34:00 AM (view original):
I'm interested in seeing Trumps numbers in a few weeks, once Republicans and Republican leaning voters have time to grieve and come to terms that it's Hillary or Trump. That's their only choice. I predict Trump will improve his unfavorables by then.

So...in your mind, the 70% of the population that hates Trump will decide it actually likes Trump?

Oh ****, Clinton +13:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/05/04/rel6b.-.2016.general.pdf

Posted by The Taint on 5/4/2016 11:09:00 AM (view original):

n Hillary Clinton, the Democrats seem determined to nominate the most disliked Presidential candidate in polling history, unless, that is, the Republican establishment fails to stop Donald Trump, who’s even more disliked.

The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll shows 56% of voters holding a negative view of Hillary and only 32% holding a positive view, a record-breaking minus 24% rating.

Meanwhile, 65% of voters view The Donald negatively and only 24% view him positively, an even more record-breaking minus 41% rating. (The numbers for Ted Cruz are 26% positive, 49% negative, a minus 23% rating which is actually 1% better than Hillary’s.)

The only candidates viewed positively by the voters are Bernie Sanders — who’s rated 45% positive and 36% negative — and John Kasich — who’s rated 31% positive and 19% negative with 19% saying they don’t know enough about Kasich to have an opinion.

WTF?

The only candidates viewed positively by the voters are being rejected by their party’s respective nominating process in favor of candidates whom a majority of voters generally hate.

If that’s the end result, the American political system is even more broken, and the process more rigged than even Bernie and The Donald are claiming.

It's actually not uncommon for a major party nominee to be viewed unfavorably within their own party. Nominees tend to be closer to the political center than party members would like. People rooting for a Democratic Socialist aren't going to be stoked when a centrist Democrat takes a bunch of Wall St. money and wins the nomination easily, but that's what it takes to win the general election.

Trump, on the other hand...

Posted by The Taint on 5/4/2016 11:12:00 AM (view original):

The Trump Tax Plan Is Revenue Neutral

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:

1. Reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.
2. A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad.
3. Reducing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.

Another repatriation of corporate cash....yeah, that's not "business as usual" that has proven to have zero effect on anything other than lining corporations pockets with more money. How about telling us what loopholes and deductions he's closing rather than "most".

Details Donald, details.


Talk about fluff.

Remember, he's going to renegotiate the medicare prescription drug plan to cut the $100 billion budget by $300 billion.

Then he's going to renegotiate my mortgage and save me $30,000 a month.

Posted by moy23 on 5/4/2016 10:58:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/4/2016 10:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 5/4/2016 10:34:00 AM (view original):
I'm interested in seeing Trumps numbers in a few weeks, once Republicans and Republican leaning voters have time to grieve and come to terms that it's Hillary or Trump. That's their only choice. I predict Trump will improve his unfavorables by then.

Trump will improve his unfavorables by being civil. More Presidential. If he stays with "Crooked Hillary", he won't move the unfavorable needle.

We disagree there. I think the names are sticking, and helping. Where he could be more presidential is not saying things like China is 'raping' us.

The names appeal to his base. For those of us who lean right on most issues, they are off-putting. Just seems so childish. And before anyone says "HOHOHO!!! THE GREAT MIKET CALLS EVERYONE NAMES BUT DOESN'T LIKE IT WHEN TRUMP DOES", I'm not running for President. And this is a simsports site.

But, yeah, dropping "rape" from his speeches will help too.

I don't think I would have said "THE GREAT" before "MIKET".

Trump would have. And added "fantastic" somewhere in there.

FWIW . . . now Kasich is dropping from the race.

RIP GOP (1854-2016)

Posted by tecwrg on 5/4/2016 12:19:00 PM (view original):
FWIW . . . now Kasich is dropping from the race.

RIP GOP (1854-2016)

TRUMP 16-0!!!! WINNER!!!

Posted by tecwrg on 5/4/2016 12:19:00 PM (view original):
FWIW . . . now Kasich is dropping from the race.

RIP GOP (1854-2016)

I don't think this kills the GOP. I think a lot of other candidates will distance themselves from Trump (some won't, but many will). The only way it's a real threat to the stability of the party is if he wins. But in the far more likely event that he doesn't, then they just run a more mainstream GOP candidate in 4 years and things go on as normal.

FWIW, barring a substantial change in platform, I do think the GOP is a few decades away from dwindling into obscurity, but both parties have adapted substantially in the past. I think the only way for a conservative party to remain relevant in the future will be to shift away from the current construct of social conservatism and towards a more meaningful fiscal conservatism. Something like 70% of people under 40 have no problem with gay marriage. I don't see enough of those people shifting views as they age to turn anti-gay-marriage planks into a positive voting issue in 20 or 30 years. And at some point people are going to catch on to the fact that abortion's not going to be illegal in this country any time soon. But really, that's the easy part - adapting away from outdated social conservatism will probably happen organically as the constituency shifts. The hard part will be the fiscal conservatism, since at the end of the day politicians always fear substantial cuts to services provided. It's also probably going to require at least a relaxation of the 35-year love affair between the GOP and the armed forces. The reality is that it's pretty hard to justify our current level of military spending to informed voters. When we're already decades ahead of China in terms of military technology, it's hard to argue we need to be spending 3-4x as much to stay ahead. But that's not necessarily going to sit well with some long-term Republican voters.