screwing power teams! Topic

Moonlight Graham(103-104 games):

1Livan GomezSLC103429811402123910448471610.326.398.6571.055015
2Hector AriasCSP1033946312017136825365158.305.393.6271.020110
3Jared ThomsonMNT1044236311913332833226701.281.333.553.88746
4Parker MadduxCLE10341376108112308240583106.262.331.516.847114
5Jimmie AquinoTOL10341066108152287934127559.263.336.515.851012
6Larry CharlestonMC10343261128264271082396600.296.343.563.905014
7Jermaine GreeneCIN98349529711525802226501.278.323.553.87645
8Ramiro UrbinaMIL994096611413024653317410.279.333.487.819013
9Paul AlexanderSJU1043925110818024743739702.276.342.505.847010
10B.C. UguetoTOR9536752969124673518800.262.327.488.81408




League leader projects to 61. #10 hits 37. That's not insane.
12/26/2009 10:51 AM
Mike... you might want to include the National League in your Cooperstown stats. You're omitting half the league.
12/26/2009 11:31 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 12/26/2009

All worlds aren't going to produce the same numbers under the same engine.

Cooperstown's leaders(WS playing now):

1Pedro ParkLOU15455193158201481076377700.287.365.588.953111
2Vic GuillenMC1626259218822545111625701512.301.367.568.935113
3Benji McKainCHR157568911532164410268121172513.269.358.560.918010
4Perry TurnerAUG1315281211622464212280296548.307.397.6141.011010
5Nick CoxCOL141569961552483711053383239.272.337.538.87509
6Lyle WynnBOS153610931892523610249272713.310.361.534.895615
7Paulie BenardNOR161640121208294361089567500.325.417.552.969114
8Brent SteenstraNY112648891148271361107556601.303.399.584.983017
9Domingo GonzalezCOL13856086177242351015238301.316.377.554.930815
10Aaron MercedesPAW157475811422363510158587710.299.380.594.974011




That looks pretty realistic to me.

Top slugger in your world is Carson Person:

http://whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1588450

Top slugger in my world is Fonzie Kelly:

http://whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1760560

IMHO, Person is overacheiving. With 0 contact, he should not be batting .248, OPB .300+. BE and Power could fetch him 40 HRs+, but Contact and splits that low shouldn't be doing so well.

Walter Post has only hit 35 HRs and has more realistic ratings if we are trying to mirror real life

http://whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1111503
12/26/2009 11:51 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By smoelheim on 12/26/2009Mike... you might want to include the National League in your Cooperstown stats. You're omitting half the league


Oops. They suck anyway. But it does make my post inaccurate.
12/26/2009 2:04 PM
Only player over 50 in Coop plays in Durham. Although 10 over 40 might be a tad high. Coop was in progress when the update started(about 40 games into the season) so it's quite possible that we won't see that many hit 40 again.
12/26/2009 2:09 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By firemanrob on 12/26/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By swamphawk22 on 12/25/2009

That said I would like you to comment on my point that unlike HD or GD, HBD is harder to change your team. You control people all the way back to their teens. You sing people to multi year contracts. You do not have everyone just graduate.

To make this radical a change in a game like HBD can be horrific to some teams!

Because FA and trades aren't a part of HBD right? Oh wait... You can indeed change your team via the aforementioned ways and in addition drafting more than one type of player (i.e. steroid freak with no batting eye, contact or vL/vR splits. You exploited a rating (power) that had way more impact that it should have and now that it's been altered and your guys are performing like MOST would expect, you come out complaining.

I can state with absolute certainty that if a change was made that benefited/improved their performance, you would never have started a thread to whine and complain

Of course you can trade players, but since your players are now worth a lot less you are still screwed.

Of course you can sign FAs, and again you are replacing people you thought were solid...screwed again.

And of course I wouldnt start the complaint if my team suddenly did much better, the person who got screwed would start the thread. That does not mean I wouldnt support a logical change over a radical game breaking change.
12/26/2009 2:38 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By swamphawk22 on 12/26/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By firemanrob on 12/26/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By swamphawk22 on 12/25/2009

That said I would like you to comment on my point that unlike HD or GD, HBD is harder to change your team. You control people all the way back to their teens. You sing people to multi year contracts. You do not have everyone just graduate.

To make this radical a change in a game like HBD can be horrific to some teams!

Because FA and trades aren't a part of HBD right? Oh wait... You can indeed change your team via the aforementioned ways and in addition drafting more than one type of player (i.e. steroid freak with no batting eye, contact or vL/vR splits. You exploited a rating (power) that had way more impact that it should have and now that it's been altered and your guys are performing like MOST would expect, you come out complaining.

I can state with absolute certainty that if a change was made that benefited/improved their performance, you would never have started a thread to whine and complain

Of course you can trade players, but since your players are now worth a lot less you are still screwed.

Of course you can sign FAs, and again you are replacing people you thought were solid...screwed again.

And of course I wouldnt start the complaint if my team suddenly did much better, the person who got screwed would start the thread. That does not mean I wouldnt support a logical change over a radical game breaking change.

It was a logical change. You tried to exploit an obvious flaw in the game. And you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Just because your players were one-dimensional and were brought back closer to reality by the change does not make it radical.
12/26/2009 4:14 PM
It was indeed a logical change bringing previous production back down to earthly numbers.

The fact that you had a team full of minor leaguers only means that you screwed yourself. Not WIS... Chances are not many intelligent owners would have traded for those guys pre-update
12/26/2009 5:55 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By snake_p on 12/26/2009From 618 AB's last year to 64 AB's this year! He must have ****** off the manager
No snake. It's early in the season. He's playing every day.
12/26/2009 5:58 PM
None of the pro-update arguments address the fact that some players with excellent ratings other than power are having "don't belong in professional baseball" seasons. These aren't just bad seasons. They're below replacement-level seasons.
12/26/2009 7:36 PM
12/26/2009 8:32 PM
To me a logical change would be too nerf power the same whether the player has a 99 power or a 40 power, not just nerf the players with high end power ratings.
12/26/2009 8:34 PM
yikes...can't believe J-Craw is in the big leagues
12/26/2009 10:19 PM
J Crawford is easily good enough to be a 2nd basemen in the big leagues. He has 93 power, 85 eye, 80 range, and 77 glove. He should be batting low with decent walks because of his low contact and high eye. He is batting low as expected at .228 BA with 36 walks in 356 ABS, but he should be hitting for more power because he is basically a swing for the fence hitter yet he only has 7 homers in 356 AB's.
12/26/2009 10:28 PM
Alejandro Rivera

Jake Brantley

Both performing well below their expected levels... granted, it is just anecdotal evidence
12/26/2009 11:10 PM
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