2016 Presidential Race Topic

Posted by tecwrg on 7/22/2015 6:42:00 PM (view original):
Why on earth ANYBODY would give even a nanosecond of consideration to Donald Trump as a viable candidate for President is unfathomable.

As to Hillary, she strikes me as the least trustworthy person to ever run for President that I can remember.  She's downright evil.  I think America has had enough of Clintons and Bushes in the White House.
 She's downright evil

Holy ****, you much watch Fox News non-stop.
7/22/2015 6:47 PM
Trump is using the Obama strategy... Keep ******* something up and as long as there's a new **** up every few days no one will continue to focus on the prior **** ups anymore. It worked for Obama.
7/22/2015 6:47 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/22/2015 6:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/22/2015 6:42:00 PM (view original):
Why on earth ANYBODY would give even a nanosecond of consideration to Donald Trump as a viable candidate for President is unfathomable.

As to Hillary, she strikes me as the least trustworthy person to ever run for President that I can remember.  She's downright evil.  I think America has had enough of Clintons and Bushes in the White House.
 She's downright evil

Holy ****, you much watch Fox News non-stop.
Nice try.

Unlike you, I can use independent and critical thought to come to my own opinions.
7/22/2015 6:50 PM
So it's your opinion that Clinton is "downright evil?"

Based on what, exactly?
7/22/2015 7:07 PM
Downright evil seems a bit strong.    Incompetent liar is a perfect fit though.

Anyway, back to healthcare, I think this sums it up:
A friend of mine, says he makes good money but has 4 kids, loves Obamacare.    Says it saved him $800 a month for the six of them.     That's almost a 10k raise for him.

My wife and I have seen about a $150 a month increase with higher co-pays/lesser coverage.   So it has "cost" us about 2k a year more. 

Truth is, that 10k is more important to him than the 2k is to us.   However, by responsible adults, it feels like we're losing.   By staying within our means, we're punished.   I don't want 4 kids but, if I had 'em, I'd be loving Obamacare.
7/22/2015 7:09 PM
EARWIG IS A PARROT
7/22/2015 7:21 PM
YE MAMMY'S PAST DUE ABORTION IS ON ME!!!!    WHAT UNDERPASS SHOULD I SEND THIS TO?!?!?!?!






I'LL GIVE YE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO OPERATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/22/2015 7:25 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/22/2015 7:07:00 PM (view original):
So it's your opinion that Clinton is "downright evil?"

Based on what, exactly?
Based on the impression that she gives that Hillary is all about Hillary, and watch out anybody who gets in her way as she fulfills her destiny.
7/22/2015 7:36 PM

Chuck Todd, the host of “Meet the Press,” reacting to a new Quinnipiac poll showing Democratic Party frontrunner Hillary Clinton seriously underwater in her favorable ratings, made a damning statement about the former secretary of state.

Todd said, “This fits another pattern of hers. Whenever she’s been out front as the face of the Democratic Party, her numbers have gone down. They always have, whenever she is the focal point.”

Clinton has a 23 point deficit in her favorable/unfavorable rating in Iowa, with 33 percent of voters having a favorable view of the former Secretary of State and 56 percent viewing her unfavorably.

In Colorado, Hillary is viewed favorably by only 35 percent of voters, while 56 percent have a negative view of her.

“If it wasn’t for Donald Trump, the biggest story of the summer would be Hillary Clinton’s problem solidifying herself inside the Democratic Party,” according to Todd. “It would be the Bernie Sanders boomlet.”






7/22/2015 7:38 PM (edited)
THANK YE, RAT-HEAD!

HILLARY IN A LANDSLIDE!(APOLOGIES TO KARL ROVE+ DICK MORRIS)
7/22/2015 7:44 PM

A stunning new poll shows trouble brewing for Hillary Clinton in key swing states, with the Democratic presidential front-runner trailing potential Republican rivals in every match-up tested. 

The Quinnipiac University poll put Clinton head-to-head against Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in three states: Colorado, Iowa and Virginia. 

In every hypothetical contest, the former secretary of state was either clearly trailing or, as Quinnipiac phrased it, "on the wrong side of a too-close-to-call" race. A majority of voters in all three states also said they found Clinton not honest and trustworthy. 

The gap between Clinton and GOP candidates was most pronounced in Colorado and Iowa. She trailed Rubio by 8 points in Colorado, 38-46 percent; and Walker by 9 points, 38-47 percent. She trailed Bush by 6 points in Iowa, 36-42 percent; and Rubio by 8 points, 36-44 percent. 

The survey raises troubling questions for the campaign, which has struggled to shed the image of a candidate who is closed off to the media and the public, despite her decisive lead over the Democratic field. The latest results reflect a drop from a similar poll in April. 

"She has lost ground in the horserace," Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll, said in a statement. 

In another troubling sign for the Democratic candidate, voters gave her poor marks on being trustworthy. In Colorado, for instance, voters said 62-34 percent she is not honest and trustworthy. 

Clinton wasn't the only one taking a hit in the latest poll. Though Donald Trump has narrowly led the GOP presidential field in some recent polls, the Quinnipiac survey showed voters, by roughly 2-1, had a negative view of the billionaire real estate magnate. Brown said that means his "growth potential" is lower than that of his GOP rivals. 

The polls were taken July 9-20, of 1,231 Colorado voters; 1,236 Iowa voters; and 1,209 Virginia voters. Each had a margin of error of 2.8 percentage points.

7/22/2015 7:45 PM

TONTO!!!!!   WHICH UNDERPASS SHOULD THE PAST DUE ABORTION BE SENT!?!?!?!?!?!

7/22/2015 7:45 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/22/2015 6:31:00 PM (view original):
There was what, between a 20 and 30% increase in total healthcare costs in the United States virtually overnight
Yeah, that didn't happen...http://www.factcheck.org/2011/10/factchecking-health-insurance-premiums/

From 2011, the first year after the law was passed but before it was fully (or even mostly) implemented:
Health insurance premiums for employer-sponsored family plans jumped a startling 9 percent from 2010 to 2011, and Republicans have blamed the federal health care law. But they exaggerate. The law — the bulk of which has yet to be implemented — has caused only about a 1 percent to 3 percent increase in premiums, according to several independent experts. The rest of the 9 percent rise is due to rising health care costs, as usual.

And this is from the McKinsey Center's study this year:
Gross premiums for most 2014 plans are likely to increase. In the 19 states, proposed gross premiums are increasing for 65 percent of all exchange renewal products (plans offered in 2014 that were re-filed for 2015). 3 In 2015, therefore, enrollees could see a median increase of 4 percent when they receive their renewal notifications. 4 However, the actual increase they pay could be less than half that amount, given that many people will have the option of switching to a lower-price plan.


And your reading comprehension issues reach a new all-time high...  I guess you're just seeing what you want to see.  At which point, in that one sentence you quoted, did I say jack **** about premiums?  Read it again...

Whether the money takes the form of higher premiums, higher copays, enormous deductibles, taxes, or added borrowing from China, we're all paying for the added costs imposed by the ACA.  If you want to oversimplify it to death you can ignore it, just as you've conveniently ignored all the other shortcomings, but it doesn't really make it not a problem...

7/22/2015 7:52 PM
You're right. I completely misread what you wrote.
7/22/2015 7:55 PM
BATTERY PARK UNDERPASS, N.Y. N.Y.
7/22/2015 8:28 PM
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