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Quote: Originally Posted By The__Kid on 2/24/2010
Quote: Originally posted by gjello10 on 2/24/2010
"I will do X." "I also will do X" does not equal collusion.

"I will do X if and only if you do X as well." "I will agree to do X under those terms." equals collusion.

Do you not get the difference?
You're wrong
How?
2/24/2010 5:06 PM
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Kid, soxfan is right...you should look up the first thing I said about the trade after I looked at it: It was that the trade deserved to be vetoed on its own merits not taking into account who was involved...
2/24/2010 5:09 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/24/2010Uh, many people did veto that trade.  18 colluding bastards!!!!

It got 18 vetoes?

I hate busy days when I can't catch "As Foxx World Turns..."

2/24/2010 5:09 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by soxfan121 on 2/24/2010The issue isn't whether or not 10 HBD owners would veto a bad trade?

If you can't prove that 10 rational, independent HBD team owners would not veto that trade, you can whine about "collusion" till the cows come home.

I don't have a dog in your fight, Kid. So believe me when I tell you - the issue ain't what you keep saying it is. The issue is that the trade is crap and would be vetoed in every league I'm in or have ever played in. Post a poll - I'll bet it's 60-40 against.

The issue is that multiple owners have chosen to not trade with another specific owner for the sole reason is that he is cheater. That puts the owner at an unfair disadvantage since he's not going to be given the chances to better his team as every other team in the world has.

The trade is just a catalyst to the discussion. The discussion would have come up some if the trade did not exist.
2/24/2010 5:10 PM
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Uh, who cares? He's a CHEATER!!!

Life is somehow not fair for him now?
2/24/2010 5:12 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by tropicana on 2/24/2010Kid, soxfan is right...you should look up the first thing I said about the trade after I looked at it: It was that the trade deserved to be vetoed on its own merits not taking into account who was involved...

I don't disagree with your right to veto any trade. It's not about the trade, though. If the trade was completely fair to both sides, we would still be having this discussion.
2/24/2010 5:12 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/24/2010
I said this in the chat but I'll say it again.

It's WifS' fault. You have a confirmed cheater. He was allowed to stay in the world. Most of us have no interest in playing with a cheater. So we're with vigilante justice. Of course, in HBD, there are only so many ways to do that. So, if some VJ is dealt out, it's going to appear collusive because, as I said, there are very limited options.

2/24/2010 5:13 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by The__Kid on 2/24/2010
Quote: Originally posted by soxfan121 on 2/24/2010The issue isn't whether or not 10 HBD owners would veto a bad trade?
If you can't prove that 10 rational, independent HBD team owners would not veto that trade, you can whine about "collusion" till the cows come home.

I don't have a dog in your fight, Kid. So believe me when I tell you - the issue ain't what you keep saying it is. The issue is that the trade is crap and would be vetoed in every league I'm in or have ever played in. Post a poll - I'll bet it's 60-40 against.
The issue is that multiple owners have chosen to not trade with another specific owner for the sole reason is that he is cheater. That puts the owner at an unfair disadvantage since he's not going to be given the chances to better his team as every other team in the world has.

The trade is just a catalyst to the discussion. The discussion would have come up some if the trade did not exist.

AHHH!! So you are just trying to stir sh!t up. You are obviously one of the alises in this league...if fraper isn't your alias, who is? Which one?
2/24/2010 5:13 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/24/2010Uh, who cares?  He's a CHEATER!!!Life is somehow not fair for him now?

Yes. He is a cheater. Nobody disputes that. The discussion is about whether collusion exists or not.
2/24/2010 5:14 PM
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See, now what he's doing is becoming apparent. He's trying to stir this argument up to get people to back off vetoes and monitoring the league so when HE TRADES WITH HIS ALIAS it will go through and no one will have the guts to veto...

I'm glad he kept telling me to FOCUS. I'd have never figured that one out...
2/24/2010 5:16 PM
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2/24/2010 5:16 PM
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Kid,

Do you understand the difference between "being in agreement" and "being in an agreement"? Do you understand that one does not equal the other? Do you get that the in the first phrase "agreement" does not mean "deal" and in the second phrase it does?
2/24/2010 5:17 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by tropicana on 2/24/2010See, now what he's doing is becoming apparent. He's trying to stir this argument up to get people to back off vetoes and monitoring the league so when HE TRADES WITH HIS ALIAS it will go through and no one will have the guts to veto...

I'm glad he kept telling me to FOCUS. I'd have never figured that one out...

Nice work, detective.
2/24/2010 5:17 PM
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There is no collusion. Have WifS check my sitemails and trade chats. You'll find that no agreement has been made.

You're just worried that frapercraper won't be given a fair chance to improve his team. I'm telling you that I will not give him a fair chance. He forfeited that right when he created an alias and attempted to trade with himself. I don't care if I hurt his feelings. I don't care if WifS thinks I'm wrong. I don't want to play with cheaters. I will do everything possible to make them regret cheating. Plain and simple.
2/24/2010 5:18 PM
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I will also encourage, cajole and suggest everyone else do the same as me. Cheating should not be tolerated. frapercraper should know this, WifS should know this and, hopefully, you will know this.
2/24/2010 5:20 PM
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