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Quote: Originally Posted By jdtapp on 7/07/2008I unfortunately won't be there for the developer chat.

This part bothers me:
"As the start of the signing period approaches, interest in a school will begin to decrease until the school makes a scholarship offer."

So, will interest still increase after signing period as recruits get desperate and drop down? Or will interest continue to wane until the school offers?
Uh, if you're not gonna offer a schollie, that makes perfect sense. If it worries you, offer the schollie.
7/7/2008 4:18 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By jdtapp on 7/07/2008
Quote: Originally posted by zhawks on 7/07/2008 All that means is if a recruit is considering you, once signings start if you haven't offered him a 'ship he will slowly lose interest. Not sure why its that hard to understand.

I don't read it like that, since it says "as the START of signing period approaches" not the signing deadline.
I think that it means as it gets closer to the start of signing a player who doesn't have the scholarship offer on the table will start to think more about his future and start looking more seriously at other schools if he feels maybe your interest is not genuine. Be interesting to know at what point the decrease starts.
7/7/2008 4:19 PM
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7/7/2008 4:30 PM
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ban the 5-5-2-0 distro!
7/7/2008 4:35 PM
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- As the start of the signing period approaches, interest in a school will begin to decrease until the school makes a scholarship offer.



If this is done right, could be a great change for the lower prestige D1 conferences. Big 6 schools will have a tougher time keeping "backup" recruits interested while they're battling for their first choice.
7/7/2008 4:41 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By porkpower on 7/07/2008Do you guys think that the $ for 6 scholly cap should still exist? Since you won't be able to sign a "superclass" I think that cap should disappear to help teams out who lose players unexpectably to the NBA draft and get stuck with 7 openings or help out someone who takes on a project team with 7 or more openings.

Since they can only sign 6 FR, I do not see much of a reason to limit $ like before.

JUCO's are going to be a really hot commodity for the next few seasons. I hope they take that into account when they generate recruits
I don't see any reason to remove the cap. Doing so would open up the possibility of an unfair recruitign advantage in a given season for a coach willing to bank up scholarships and then sign a "super-class" of FR and JUCO1/transfers.
7/7/2008 4:42 PM
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Fix the -5 defense setting!! The +5 setting is never used because it would lose every time. the -5 setting creates unrealistic results and is the defense of desperation. (I know his isn't the topic, but I figured I had an audience of veteran coaches).
7/7/2008 4:44 PM
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They need to reduce the probability of losing multiple players early to the NBA. When you consistantly lose multiple players to the NBA, it becomes almost impossible to control class sizes.
7/7/2008 4:48 PM
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good point cy.
7/7/2008 4:53 PM
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This fix *should* reduce the probability. The reason why some teams experienced early entries is because their classes weren't balanced in the first place.

Since more experienced players tend to have better ratings/perform better, a good team with 6 juniors and 1 senior has a higher chance of losing a junior than a team with 3 seniors and 3 juniors. That's because the 6 will be counted on to contribute more as juniors than the three juniors would be on the team with 3 seniors.

Balanced classes will reduce the probability because (in theory) losing a junior who is a NT team's fourth option (in terms of ratings and/or stats) is less likely to occur than losing a junior who is a NT team's highest rated player.
7/7/2008 5:06 PM
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- As the start of the signing period approaches, interest in a school will begin to decrease until the school makes a scholarship offer.

Wasn't this initiated a long time ago? That if you didn't have a scholly on the table they'd stop considering you? I remember seeing this well over a year ago, or at least discussion of the same thing. It's deja vu all over again.
7/7/2008 5:10 PM
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7/7/2008 5:11 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by vandydave on 7/07/2008i like firm release dates
take some viagra then, if you're having that type of problem.
7/7/2008 5:12 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by pink1 on 7/07/2008 AI schools will continue recruiting after signings begin and only go after undecided recruits

it seems changes are being made just to screw with the enjoyablility of the game... One of my favorite things to do was scour the unsigned lists after being beaten on a top recruit of two. Now this will be more difficult to do.. I guess it improves realism, but I really dont lke it. What it means in reality is that drop downs will be harder to get (few chances after signings start) and that coaches who get beaten will no longer have as many fallback optoins.

this will also have a huge domino effect on D2 dropdowns and thus on D3 as well, as more D2 schools will reach down and take more players that would've dropped down.
7/7/2008 5:15 PM
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REALISM is the key to my enjoyment of WIS. Anything that can make the more tr'ue to life and maintain as level as playing field as possible will only improve the product. In my mind these changes were long overdue. Kudo's to ADM for attmpting to get it right.
7/7/2008 5:16 PM
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