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Quote: Originally posted by hartjh14 on 1/08/2009Sadly, I think mike has a point (outside of selectively excluding teams that is).  I think the best measurement of the best gm is two fold (really more than that, but this is for simplicity's sake).  Someone needs to come up with some magic formula of percentage of playoff appearances, then percentage of championships in those appearances.  Minimum of 10 playoff appearances.Getting to the playoffs is fantastic.  Winning in the playoffs is the ultimate goal.  Find some way to combine the 2 and you'll at least be able to make a valid claim to being a top GM.  It won't say who's #1 and who's #20, but it will let you know who the top GMs are (with a few exceptions - mike is a top GM no matter how many playoff failures he has).

Please. I think success in top tier worlds should count for far more than disaster worlds.

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Quote: Originally Posted By hartjh14 on 1/08/2009
Sadly, I think mike has a point (outside of selectively excluding teams that is). I think the best measurement of the best gm is two fold (really more than that, but this is for simplicity's sake). Someone needs to come up with some magic formula of percentage of playoff appearances, then percentage of championships in those appearances. Minimum of 10 playoff appearances.

Getting to the playoffs is fantastic. Winning in the playoffs is the ultimate goal. Find some way to combine the 2 and you'll at least be able to make a valid claim to being a top GM. It won't say who's #1 and who's #20, but it will let you know who the top GMs are (with a few exceptions - mike is a top GM no matter how many playoff failures he has).

Get your tongue out of Mike's ***... danny's getting jealous.
1/8/2009 11:08 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By mrdanielx on 1/08/2009
Please. I think success in top tier worlds should count for far more than disaster worlds.

As soon as you can prove without question which worlds are top worlds and which are disaster worlds, you may have a point. Since it's just your opinion, you have no point. Move along.
1/8/2009 11:09 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By iain on 1/08/2009
Get your tongue out of Mike's ***... danny's getting jealous.
Sometimes subtle digs are more fun than the obvious ones.
1/8/2009 11:10 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By mrdanielx on 1/08/2009
Quote: Originally posted by hartjh14 on 1/08/2009
Sadly, I think mike has a point (outside of selectively excluding teams that is). I think the best measurement of the best gm is two fold (really more than that, but this is for simplicity's sake). Someone needs to come up with some magic formula of percentage of playoff appearances, then percentage of championships in those appearances. Minimum of 10 playoff appearances.

Getting to the playoffs is fantastic. Winning in the playoffs is the ultimate goal. Find some way to combine the 2 and you'll at least be able to make a valid claim to being a top GM. It won't say who's #1 and who's #20, but it will let you know who the top GMs are (with a few exceptions - mike is a top GM no matter how many playoff failures he has).

Please. I think success in top tier worlds should count for far more than disaster worlds.

Sadly, I agree with danny. If you want a true factor you need to look for regular season, playoff, and championship success; factor in the strength of the world; and factor in if the person has done it in just one world or more than one. I think one guy getting a great starting team and winning 3 or 4 titles in one world does not make him a great GM -- if he can do in consistently in multiple worlds thats another story.
1/8/2009 11:14 AM
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It's odd that cshewood would say that as he's been far more successful early in worlds than later when GM/management skills start to surface.

Also, I think most people familiar with HBD are aware of "elite" worlds and "disaster" worlds. There's no measuring stick that's going to "prove" which is which. Just like no measuring stick is going to prove who are the top GMs.
1/8/2009 11:20 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/08/2009
Also, I think most people familiar with HBD are aware of "elite" worlds and "disaster" worlds. There's no measuring stick that's going to "prove" which is which. Just like no measuring stick is going to prove who are the top GMs.

That's kind of my point.
1/8/2009 11:22 AM
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FWIW, I'm not saying cshewood just lucked into some good teams. He can obviously rebuild turds. But, if you're using championships as a barometer, his 5 came early in worlds.
1/8/2009 11:23 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By hartjh14 on 1/08/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/08/2009

Also, I think most people familiar with HBD are aware of "elite" worlds and "disaster" worlds. There's no measuring stick that's going to "prove" which is which. Just like no measuring stick is going to prove who are the top GMs.

That's kind of my point


Also my point about a page ago. These threads, much like the Elite World threads, are just self-pats on the back.
1/8/2009 11:24 AM
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As far as I'm aware, no one has more titles in HBD right now than myself. And my ratio isn't too shabby either.

It's from that point that I share my opinion that this thread is really pointless, it indicates literally and absolutely nothing about the quality of the GM's at the top of the list. Just as pointless is counting total titles.

In the end, a jury of your peers is the best form of deciding the top GM's in the game, and to my knowledge none of the guys who's names are always brought up are starting threads touting themselves in the forums.
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Quote: Originally Posted By sickchangeup on 1/08/2009As far as I'm aware, no one has more titles in HBD right now than myself. And my ratio isn't too shabby either.

It's from that point that I share my opinion that this thread is really pointless, it indicates literally and absolutely nothing about the quality of the GM's at the top of the list. Just as pointless is counting total titles.

In the end, a jury of your peers is the best form of deciding the top GM's in the game, and to my knowledge none of the guys who's names are always brought up are starting threads touting themselves in the forums


Bingo! Same could be said for worlds and those lists as well. The populace on a whole seems to know who/where is quality and who/where is not. The best worlds, don't need to be told how good they are in a world ranking thread, nor do they need to create any formula to make themselves look good.
1/8/2009 11:36 AM
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1/8/2009 11:46 AM
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You're not tanking now because I called you on it. You were something like 11-34 at one point.
1/8/2009 11:49 AM
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