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MikeT23
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I assume your luck reference referred to my "If you're lucky, you might find some value in the 4th-5th round" comment. Having value still around in the 4th-5th round is largely incompetence from your worldmates. I consider it lucky that these guys were passed over.

The difference between a very good player and a hall of famer in HBD is opportunity. If player 1-2 in the draft are Hall of Famers, I bet #3 can be there too given the right conditions.
2/7/2010 8:24 AM
nfet
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unrealism and illogicalness are two different things.
2/7/2010 8:35 AM
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2/7/2010 8:37 AM
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it's playing the odds, not luck. When you budget more in scouting you play the odds of seeing more and thus better guys. It doesn't always work out that way, but that's the way they've set up the game part of the draft.

Its not quite based on luck, but I think there are certainly ways to add more to it, if they wanted.
2/7/2010 8:40 AM
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no i think what he means is, if he spends 20/20 in highschool/college, how and why would he not see all the top players. how can he spend the max and possibly not see the 2-3 best available phenoms in the country. thats just comes down to luck. that does seem a little odd.

what is the argument against a team spending 20/20 from seeing all the available talent?and having a team spending 15/15 from seeing only 75%, and a team spending 10/10 from seeing half the pool?

i personally like drafting as it is now, but it could still improve. a team should have the ability to spend more on scouting and have the ability to see the best available talent.

heres a question, does a team that spends 20 million on international scouting see all available internationals?

2/7/2010 8:43 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By nfet on 2/07/2010it's playing the odds, not luck. When you budget more in scouting you play the odds of seeing more and thus better guys. It doesn't always work out that way, but that's the way they've set up the game part of the draft.

Its not quite based on luck, but I think there are certainly ways to add more to it, if they wanted
Look at my above post. Again, I took over for that team so I didnt budget, but they still had 17/11 scouting, and all player posted were from college, which I had budgeted 17. The other teams all had less budget than I did.

Playing the odds="luck." It may be more calculated, but in the end its a matter of luck.
2/7/2010 8:49 AM
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Collusion. I spend 20m on HS, you spend 20m on college. I tell you the top 20, you tell me the top 20 from our respective scouting budgets.

USF, I could argue that you got the best player.
2/7/2010 8:52 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/07/2010
Collusion. I spend 20m on HS, you spend 20m on college. I tell you the top 20, you tell me the top 20 from our respective scouting budgets.

USF, I could argue that you got the best player.

Look im a realist too. I would have expected you to come back with, it would make tanking easier, since they would be guranteed a top stud.

The collusion thing is possible, but that takes a little more work. And in the end of the day, in a game like this, how many people want to partner with someone else? I can understand if an alias sneaks in and does that....
2/7/2010 8:57 AM
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but what if you dont spend the 20 on HS, you cant see those players. if you cant see them you cant rank or draft them.

that should take care of that.
2/7/2010 8:58 AM
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2/7/2010 8:58 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By coldfeet on 2/07/2010
but what if you dont spend the 20 on HS, you cant see those players. if you cant see them you cant rank or draft them.

that should take care of that.



So I spend 5m and see the best 25%. Because, if you scout high school players at all, wouldn't you scout the best you've read about in Baseball America?
2/7/2010 9:00 AM
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And I might have gotten the best (I think I got the 2nd best hitter of that group, and easily the worst in the field, not to mention his speed is 1, so if he doesnt hit it out of the park its a single), but when compared to the other coaches budgets, the odds (luck) would seem to say I should have seen all 4 of those guys, and I didnt.

Luck factors into sports, and games that are simulated online. Thats why a 130 win team gets swept out of the playoffs in WIS. But why is it such a big factor to an aspect of the game that WIS says we should be able to control, budgeting?
2/7/2010 9:01 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By usfbully on 2/07/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/07/2010

Collusion. I spend 20m on HS, you spend 20m on college. I tell you the top 20, you tell me the top 20 from our respective scouting budgets.

USF, I could argue that you got the best player.

Look im a realist too. I would have expected you to come back with, it would make tanking easier, since they would be guranteed a top stud.

The collusion thing is possible, but that takes a little more work. And in the end of the day, in a game like this, how many people want to partner with someone else? I can understand if an alias sneaks in and does that....



Tanking guarantees a stud now.

"Little" is the operative word. It really doesn't take much effort to say "Copy your prospect ratings to excel and send them to [email protected]".
2/7/2010 9:02 AM
coldfeet
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this is a game , one which i believe the we the players would like to be a realistic as possibly, while still understanding it is still only a game.

if the yankees had the overall #1 pick, and the sox had the #2 overall pick....how realistic is it that the sox draft a player a stud SR. starting pitcher from stanford with the second pick that the yankees did not know existed?

2/7/2010 9:02 AM
MikeT23
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Again, tell me the top 50 players, because every BL team knows who they are, and I budget 0 or 1m(if you insist I'll see nothing at 0).
2/7/2010 9:04 AM
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