Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/14/2010

Not shocking that you missed my point entirely.

I said many companies allow smoke breaks for employees, which would mean extra breaks for those individuals that smoke.

What is wrong with me taking my 'Smoke breaks' doing something healthier?
Nothing, but in h2o's case, he's not visiting WIS on his work computer during his "smoke breaks" because its banned. Because he found a loophole via me, its all of a sudden ok? What kind of warped world do you live in?

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/14/2010

Not shocking that you missed my point entirely.

I said many companies allow smoke breaks for employees, which would mean extra breaks for those individuals that smoke.

What is wrong with me taking my 'Smoke breaks' doing something healthier?
Nothing, but in h2o's case, he's not visiting WIS on his work computer during his "smoke breaks" because its banned. Because he found a loophole via me, its all of a sudden ok? What kind of warped world do you live in?

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/15/2010

How do you know if his work offers smoke breaks or not? Irrelevant How do you know that the company blocked WIS specifically and it didn't just get blocked due to its 'Fantasy Sports' Tags. You don't. It doesn't matter...WIS isn't fantasy sports? My ***...WIS is probably more in depth than any fantasy sports out there, thus it doesn't matter WHY the website has been banned/blocked, it matters that it IS banned/blocked and if you're still trying to visit the banned/blocked site via loopholes, then I would say that you're acting in staunch defiance of your company, and thus you should be reprimanded...not hard to grasp.

If h2o thinks that the site has been banned/blocked by mistake, why isn't he going to his supervisors and discussing the issue? Why is he trying to be a snake about it? What a stand up guy.

Quote: Originally Posted By dmurphy104 on 2/15/2010What kind of warped world do you live in? You are out of work, and spending all your time on here, and playing your videogames, and doing your crappy rankings. Grow up, and get a job, and contribute to society instead of being a drain. Whether that means you have to flip burgers, or collect trash. Why would you give a crap what someone does at work. Im posting this from work, but spend half my time in the evenings and on weekends answering emails, and doing other work..you have no idea what the OPs circumstances are, you tool.

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 2/15/2010

Good lord, you're referring to someone attempting to check HD at work as their "criminal ways?" Because you probably visit WIS at work too, you're trying to paint this as no big deal. Thank you for libeling me here by the way...I said CROOKED, not CRIMINAL. What you consider to be "someone attempting to check HD at work" really is "someone attempting to view a banned/blocked website at work via a loophole". Like I said, if h2o thinks this was done by mistake, then he should talk to his supervisors about getting it back on the allowed list....why wouldn't he?

Most of your logic is more criminal than that.

You have some really serious growing up to do. If you're half as introspective as you've attempted to paint yourself, you should realize that. I need to grow up because I'm against people cheating the system? Please. If WIS is allowed at your work, view it all you like and do whatever the hell you want there...if its banned/blocked, or you got a memo not to go on the website anymore DON'T GO THERE! Damn, what a concept. I love how people are trying to defend this guy like he's being wronged somehow.

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dmurphy104 on 2/15/2010
What kind of warped world do you live in? You are out of work, and spending all your time on here, and playing your videogames, and doing your crappy rankings. Grow up, and get a job, and contribute to society instead of being a drain. Whether that means you have to flip burgers, or collect trash. Why would you give a crap what someone does at work. Im posting this from work, but spend half my time in the evenings and on weekends answering emails, and doing other work..you have no idea what the OPs circumstances are, you tool.

Trust me, I understand what I am and am not. I've probably felt sorry for myself too much and not always made the best decisions, but that's why I am where I am today. I'm still reeling a bit from ESPN not hiring me and I have a hard time accepting the "take any job you can get" mantra because I'm an intelligent guy that graduated with honors from a 4 year accredited university.Its frustrating to HAVE to take a job that I could have gotten without a college degree when I went to college so I wouldn't have to work at podunk company. For the 2nd time, I'm not collecting unemployment, never have, and fwiw, someday I think I can/will make BPI Sports into a successful venture, but my lack of capital as is is preventing that. Time will tell. I love how because I don't have a job, I don't have a right/privilege to post in response to h2o's crooked ways...absolutely love it.

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 2/15/2010
I'm actually quite amused that my company blocks email sites, etc. but you can access espn, WIS, etc. So I guess in your book, I'm not crooked. Thank God.

No one is saying he's being wronged. Only that you're hugely overreacting and then refusing to step back a bit (shocking). I'm saying he should be reprimanded for blatantly circumventing company policy. Its really ok for him to visit a banned site through a loophole...if and when his boss sees that, that makes him/his case any better? "Yeah boss, I thought because I accessed the site through another address that it was ok"....that's going over like a lead balloon. The intent is there.

I'll say this: If you ever do get your company off the ground, good luck keeping any employees around. Its going to be a sole proprietorship if it ever flies...its a one man show, always has been, probably always will be. I wouldn't need employees for what I do.

Quote: Originally Posted By dmurphy104 on 2/15/2010
Just because you take a job, doesnt mean it's going to be your career. Take a menial job at a good company, do good work, and you can move up. Learn the entire business. Being a college graduate with honors means **** these days. Start at the bottom, learn the business at every level, and move up.

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 2/15/2010

I'm actually quite amused that my company blocks email sites, etc. but you can access espn, WIS, etc. So I guess in your book, I'm not crooked. Thank God.

No one is saying he's being wronged. Only that you're hugely overreacting and then refusing to step back a bit (shocking). I'm saying he should be reprimanded for blatantly circumventing company policy. Its really ok for him to visit a banned site through a loophole...if and when his boss sees that, that makes him/his case any better? "Yeah boss, I thought because I accessed the site through another address that it was ok"....that's going over like a lead balloon. The intent is there.

I'll say this: If you ever do get your company off the ground, good luck keeping any employees around. Its going to be a sole proprietorship if it ever flies...its a one man show, always has been, probably always will be. I wouldn't need employees for what I do.

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dmurphy104 on 2/15/2010

Just because you take a job, doesnt mean it's going to be your career. Take a menial job at a good company, do good work, and you can move up. Learn the entire business. Being a college graduate with honors means **** these days. Start at the bottom, learn the business at every level, and move up.

Fair enough. I'm admittedly a bit jaded at this point (rightly or wrongly), especially after losing out on my dream job; I'm tired of not being hired due to lack of experience and the companies I've worked for and positions I've had were/seemed to be dead end jobs to me, thus its frustrating not even to get a look-see per se. You're absolutely right about the college degree thing....I may as well tear it up...that's about all its worth. Temp Jobs, Kmart, and a few others aren't what I would consider to be "good companies"...its hard to accept a job like that, not doing what you really want, while you're not furthering yourself because the job is dead end...its a catch 22...damned if you do and damned if you don't. God willing, everything will work out fine, and thanks for your post

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dmurphy104 on 2/15/2010

Just because you take a job, doesnt mean it's going to be your career. Take a menial job at a good company, do good work, and you can move up. Learn the entire business. Being a college graduate with honors means **** these days. Start at the bottom, learn the business at every level, and move up.

Fair enough. I'm admittedly a bit jaded at this point (rightly or wrongly), especially after losing out on my dream job; I'm tired of not being hired due to lack of experience and the companies I've worked for and positions I've had were/seemed to be dead end jobs to me, thus its frustrating not even to get a look-see per se. You're absolutely right about the college degree thing....I may as well tear it up...that's about all its worth. Temp Jobs, Kmart, and a few others aren't what I would consider to be "good companies"...its hard to accept a job like that, not doing what you really want, while you're not furthering yourself because the job is dead end...its a catch 22...damned if you do and damned if you don't. God willing, everything will work out fine, and thanks for your post.

Let me get this right, you are saying it took ESPN 18 months to tell you you didn't have enough experience?

Quote: Originally Posted By theeyetest on 2/15/2010
I do plenty of work on my own time (after putting the kids to bed, on weekends, etc.). I'm not really sweating checking WiS at work, and I don't think the owner of the company for which I work is sweating it either. Given the overlap between professional and personal life that a lot of us experience, labeling visits to personel sites during work hours as crooked does not make sense.

Colonels is right in that if your company lets you know that you are not permitted to go to a certain site during working hours, then you should not go to that site. But, that is not necessarily the case here. wissports.com may have been blocked simply because "sports" was in the domain name. Or, it could have been blocked by an aggressive network administrator. There are plenty of other reasons that the domain may have been blocked. But then why not go to your supervisor and say "Hey, I think this site is wrongfully blocked" as opposed to sneakily circumventing something that may or may not be an issue?

Just because a site is blocked does not mean that your boss/owner/manager does not want you to go to it. I frequently hit my company's blocked site/content page when trying to develop new business. The reasons given for particular sites being blocked usually do not make sense. So what do you do in this instance?