Pitcher A's consultant: his Mom.

Player A currently sits, at age 18, like this:

Defense: 65 - 58 - 42 - 45

Bat: 47 - 58 - 46L - 61R - 64eye - 22 BR
52 overall

Player B: at age 18:
Defense: 58 - 25 - 65 - 40
Bat: 49 - 69 - 58L - 55R - 57Eye - 48 BR

Player A has the higher makeup, so I'm not sure how much separation there is between the 2. Player B looks to be just a bit further along in development, but w/out the makeup of A, will he keep progressing? Also, his glove, currently at 25, really leaves a lot to be desired.


2/23/2010 9:11 AM
A is still the better player. And he will develop better.
2/23/2010 9:22 AM
What about drafting RP that high? I ask because there is a RP that looks like he could be a lock down closer.

Durability: 67 (67)
Health: 90 (92)
Stamina: 34 (42)
Control: 66 (95)
VsL: 56 (75)
VsR: 51 (63)
Velocity: 78 (84)
GB/FB: 62 (67)
P1: 72 (89)
P2: 80 (95)

He's a y, age 20 w/makeup rating of 73, 88 potential peak.

He looks to me like he could log quite a few innings out of the pen, with good control and two great pitches, but the splits, while good Vs ies and ok Vs righties, leave a bit to be desired.

That's my quick scouting report on him.
2/23/2010 9:32 AM
No.
2/23/2010 9:54 AM
Take the crazy pitcher (or take a harder look at the SS). I find it hard to believe that you are listing the best players in the draft. Which means you're probably not seeing them. If everybody available at #2 has this many holes, you're probably not seeing the guy you would want to draft. I'd punt and up scouting by $4m on both HS/Col, and get a player you're more comfortable with overall.

I'm curious how many people agree with Mike's assessment that player B is a 1B and not a RF? I think his combination of Range and Arm more than make up for a slight Glove deficiency, even if the Glove only tops out in the 38-41 range.

Finally, I agree with whoever said that taking Player A with an explicit eye towards tradng him next season to an owner who sees him as a 2B is not a bad option.
2/23/2010 9:58 AM
And, yeah, no on that RP
2/23/2010 9:58 AM
Slight glove deficiency? That's like saying Stevie Wonder has a slight seeing deficiency.
2/23/2010 10:06 AM
It's RF, not SS. He projects to 47. 45+ in RF is a slight glove deficiency for me, especially when you're throwing in 80+ range. You've made it clear that you view it differently, and you've got a ton of experience, so I'm curious what others think of that RF glove.
2/23/2010 10:10 AM
You know he's not going to hit that 47. Or 45. Because of the other ratings he can play RF but he's gonna have a 1B glove. And not a particularly good one.
2/23/2010 10:16 AM
if he hits 45 in glove i'll play that guy in right field, no problem
2/23/2010 10:23 AM
I know he's not hitting that. As I said, I'd live with 38-41 Glove in RF with 80+ Range and a very good RF arm (especially with a big bat and big time speed).
2/23/2010 10:27 AM
It's already been established that I'll play a guy with a 32 glove and 60+ in the other fielding categories if necessary.

However, I draft the guy as a 1B. And, as a 1B, he isn't not better than the other guy listed who, at the very worst, can play LF.
2/23/2010 10:31 AM
That's why I hadn't brought the RP pitcher up earlier, I figured way too high to pick a RP.

There's is a SS that on second look, could be very good there. Should be solid with the glove, at SS, but not great. Probably league avg, or he could easily play an outstanding 3B or RF.

His power projection is 99 and his splits and eye are all in the 70's. The one thing bring him back to the pack, and the only reason I hadn't mentioned him before, is that his contact rating projection is 48.

I think you are all right, I'm not seeing all the players. I had based my scouting budgets on the previous owner, actually increasing them a bit. Now I realize I need to bump them up more.

Thanks for all the discussion, it's really helping me see the draft, prospects, the game with more depth and understanding.
2/23/2010 10:44 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By aaronwayne on 2/23/2010That's why I hadn't brought the RP pitcher up earlier, I figured way too high to pick a RP.

There's is a SS that on second look, could be very good there. Should be solid with the glove, at SS, but not great. Probably league avg, or he could easily play an outstanding 3B or RF.

His power projection is 99 and his splits and eye are all in the 70's. The one thing bring him back to the pack, and the only reason I hadn't mentioned him before, is that his contact rating projection is 48.

I think you are all right, I'm not seeing all the players. I had based my scouting budgets on the previous owner, actually increasing them a bit. Now I realize I need to bump them up more.

Thanks for all the discussion, it's really helping me see the draft, prospects, the game with more depth and understanding.
Way too early to pick THAT RP. Show me 32/92 Sta/Dur and Ctr, splits, Vel, and 2 pitches in the 85-100 range, and we can talk 2nd pick.
2/23/2010 11:11 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 2/23/2010
It's already been established that I'll play a guy with a 32 glove and 60+ in the other fielding categories if necessary.

However, I draft the guy as a 1B. And, as a 1B, he isn't not better than the other guy listed who, at the very worst, can play LF.

Sure. For me, though he's not ideal, I draft him with the idea that he probably ends up in RF because I'm likely to find (or already have) a bat I like better who is 1B-only. Furthermore, if I had 2 good LF, I'd rather have his sorry glove in RF than a solid LF with 50/50 arm, so one of the LF would probably end up at 1B. If he ends up playing 1B because I find another RF with a better glove than this guy and a better bat than any 1B I have available, then bonus.

The other player looks much more like a guy who would be penciled in at LF from day one, to me.
2/23/2010 11:16 AM
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