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Posted by colonels19 on 3/8/2011 4:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/8/2011 3:01:00 PM (view original):
No, it is obvious.   I just wanted you to say it.   You're shilling your site/game in hopes of profiting.   And, if the numbers indicate that you won't profit, you shelve the idea for another day.   So, as I said earlier, if 35 people join and you see there's no money to be made from 35, you'll cancel the contest again. 

Which, quite frankly, is why you'll never get enough people to join.   Maybe you shitcan it in September.   Who the hell wants to play a game for 5 months and have in canceled in month 6?
I will not make a dime off of this this year, whether the game is run for 5 or 5000.  I do this for the love of the game if you will, it's a hobby that I'd ideally like to make into a business someday, but if that never happens, I'll be happy doing rankings, contests, etc., until I die.

 

Again, you just keep saying he won't, he won't, he won't, thus I think you should be the guy to join the most and play to prove that I'll muck it, because that's all you've ever said are negative things.  If I muck with 35 cats, I'm a friggin idiot, period.

So why abandon it if you don't have x-amount sign up?  That's sort of what I've been saying. 

If you want to start something, and the objective isn't profit from Day 1, you have to start somewhere.   You're talking in circles. 

"It's not worth it to me to run a game with 7 contestants!!"
"I"m not making anything off of it this year!!!"

WTF?

3/8/2011 4:19 PM
Because for me I guess it's almost like failure...like a "back to the drawing board" kind of mentality...a lot of what having less than 10 people join/follow/etc anything says is that your product/service/what you're doing isn't worth a damned...and that factors into it.

The NASCAR contest had more people last year than this year, and had more people 2 years ago than last year.  My football contests have wained in participation since I first ran them, including a no-run last year because there were maybe a handful of people again that wanted to play.  I'm going to advertise more this year, try to "drum up business" the best I know how, and we'll see what happens, but regardless of how good I think my ideas/contests are, it doesn't mean **** if nobody plays/wants to play them...and that's when the "is it really worth it?" sets in.  My rankings are something that I do that I really don't care if any other people look at/like/etc...it's a different mindset when you're creating a game for the masses to play.

I think the interesting thing about AOD will be to see if you can run a fantasy baseball game like this, because when it boils down to it...will the game be strategic, or will it be pure luck...and if it is luck, how do you go from making it from luck to strategy...is it possible?  I guess from my thought process and from the amount of people that have read and moved on is that it is/will be more of a crapshoot than an actual "legit" fantasy contest.  I'd love to see how it pans out..I've pressed and organized more for this this year, and arguably I could have done better, but I fully intend to run this this season with whatever the final number is, and honestly, I'd like you to be one of them.
3/8/2011 4:40 PM
You probably also won't believe me when I tell you this as well.

I've been in contact with someone at Sports Weekly to get a piddly 3 line ad into the magazine for a couple issues, and the deadline to submit was today at noon for the 3-16 issue...I emailed her at approximately 12AM last night, she requested that I send the ad thru email, and it is now 4:42PM and I still haven't heard a response.  It would have been a bit of a rush, but I was still in the time window, so this is a bit of a snag and sucks, but it's something to learn from and take heed of for next year I guess.  Just thought I'd throw this out there...starts to make you think about karma and things of that sort.
3/8/2011 4:44 PM

OK, I'll try to help you. 

People play games on the internet.  Free or pay to play, prizes or not, they like to play them to completion.  My first experience with internet games was a NASCAR game at CBSSportline.  It was free and I'm pretty sure there were no prizes.  I wasn't doing particularly well but I was a little more interested in NASCAR because of it.  Liked to see how I did on Mondays.   I clicked in one Thursday, I liked to make my preliminary picks a couple days early in case I missed checking in, and it was gone.  It was summer so less than half a season had been played.  Didn't cost me anything but a few minutes a week to make picks.  But I was ******.  I couldn't believe a business would just discontinue their game with no warning.  I cursed CBS and won't visit their site to this day(if it still exists). 

That's why I keep telling you that people don't want to play a game if they know the creator has shitcanned the idea before.   And you keep shooting yourself in the foot in this thread by saying "It's not worth my time if......"   Who the hell wants to invest time into something only to find out, at a later date, that it's not worth YOUR time?

3/9/2011 12:48 PM
I get what you're saying, I just don't think it's the overriding sentiment.  If I've "spurned" you/anyone before, then they have a perfect right to not play and I would respect that, but I think it's more concept than it is the people I've ****** off...I could be wrong too.

It's hard to call shutting a game down before it starts abandoning it...I abandoned the NASCAR thing (which I should have never started) and that's really been the only game that I abandoned...I'm sitting at a handful of cats right now...I want to run it regardless, but it's a bit dejecting when nobody's biting.
3/9/2011 9:41 PM
OK, let me ask you this.   You're offering a $50 GC for a free game and no one is even asking the rules.  Why do you think that is?
3/10/2011 9:01 AM
Because the rules are clearly visible on my website, I'm guessing a large majority took a look, decided they didn't like it for whatever reason (concept, me, lack of web design, etc).  Money is enticing so I'm trying to do whatever I can to get people to join this game.  If people think I'm a piece of **** for what I've done in the past or currently, I honestly wish they would just say it...don't hold back.  I'd love to at the very least get some feedback for this thing.
3/10/2011 9:46 AM
So you think the rules/game just suck?    I can tell you I haven't looked at them because, get this, you shitcan the idea so quickly.
3/10/2011 10:49 AM
Well this thing is game on regardless, because I'm having a piddly 4 line ad in the next 2 issues of Sports Weekly, so mucking is not an option now, not that it ever was for this year.
3/10/2011 9:23 PM
Like I've said before, would love to have you, I love proving people wrong.
3/10/2011 9:24 PM
Run it for a couple of full seasons and get back to me.
3/11/2011 8:06 AM
Lol, I love how worthy you feel/seem...like you're friggin Bud Selig...it's priceless...
3/11/2011 9:33 PM
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