Quote: Originally Posted By a_in_the_b on 4/11/2010
Considering that the randomness is built into HD. . YOUR point is moot by your own flawed logic. QED.

Quote: Originally Posted By doomey on 4/12/2010
Whose "eye test"? My "eye test" says there was an abborant game, but it wasn't the second one. It doesn't matter what game it happened in, you just admitted the fact that there was an "abborant" game, thus you're agreeing with me. My "eye test" says that both teams won at home and one had a blowout. Either game by itself can still only be taken as one game that may lie outside the norm (either the blowout was the anomoly or the close win), but even then, YES, if it fits in the bell curve, then it is acceptable. Disagreed, why does there have to be any outliers? If I thought these bizarre results occured because of normal randomness or through the engine running correctly, then I would have never said a damned thing. Fact is, I don't believe that because the results say otherwise. Outliers are UNACCEPTABLE. Once the outliers reduce the curve drasticly, then you can cry that the sky is falling. If there's 1 outlier, there's a problem. Why does the sim chose to take a **** every once in a while? That's a problem. You write it off and act like it doesn't matter, and again, if you're going to justify and be ok with every "outlier" that happens in HD, then you're suggesting/saying that the game is perfect, and there couldn't be a more false statement. I want a game that works the same way 100% of the time, not great 95% of the time and terrible the other 5%...that's unacceptable. If your sim has bouts of extreme randomness, you have a problem. I have questions about the engine and the RNG.

You do realize that Kentucky St. did change their defensive positioning by 3 between games as well. Couple that with being at home and drawing more fouls from that, I have zero problem with the outcome in general. The first game got out of hand early and KSU played their backups more, thus increasing the margain of victory for the deeper team. I also see that KSU's guards got more shots the second game. They were two seperate games, the circumstances were not repeated so you can't have the expectation that the result will be.

Quote: Originally Posted By reinsel on 4/12/2010Dude anyone who goes latin on your A$$ wins the argument. Period
To quote Frank Costanza "What the hell does that mean?"

Quote: Originally Posted By a_in_the_b on 4/12/2010

Outliers are SOMETHING WHICH DOES HAPPEN. Ok, and if I thought these "outliers" were being produced because the sim engine/rng is operating as good/great as it ever does, then you wouldn't hear a friggin peep out of me. I run a very simple Home Run Derby game where you could get a whole slew of different results, but I can show and guarantee you that I run every contest THE SAME EXACT WAY EVERY SINGLE TIME. I don't believe and have no reason to believe that HD does this, especially when you get extremely unjustifiable results from time to time. ANd yes, I know. YOu are going to pull your "Real life isn't proof' routine Its not a routine, its common sense. If you don't see how the game and real life should be different, then you're an idiot...and if you take that as name calling, then so be it. If you can't see/know/understand that human life is the most random thing out there, then I simply can't help you., which is your awfully convenient way of trying to remove all arguments against you. Feel free to tell me when I've skirted ANYTHING. A sim which is supposed to sim real life, according to COlonels, should not act like it. Where anywhere does it say that the sim is supposed to sim real life? You should have more concrete expectations in this game than RL because of the ratings, again not hard to grasp. There should inherently be less randomness because of the ratings that are used. Because an artificial encoding of all the other random stuff that occurs in a game is not valid while an artificial encoding of nebulous things such as "Passing" "Ball handling" "Defense" and the like into an arbitrary artificial number IS somehow valid. There's a difference here. There's some expectation/knowledge of how the ratings will bear out, and conversely you never know how the randomness will bear out because there's no way that you can see/account for/justify it because it isn't visible. If you accept all outliers as A JUSTIFIED PART OF THE GAME, then by that logic THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE GAME...anything can happen so who gives a f***? THE GAME IS PERFECT!

SOme modicum of consistency would help you out quite a bit Colonels. Your big word usage doesn't make you look any more intelligent, just saying...and if you think I haven't been consistent, then read up on my past threads.

Quote: Originally Posted By pitino27 on 4/08/2010http://whatifsports.com/hd/GameResults/BoxScore.aspx?gid=5609317

I know it happens , but I am still ******! After beating them by 40, we lose the next game.... Same gameplan. We were CLEARLY the dominate favorite as well.... As far as I can tell, the future of HD doesn't look bright either, so I may not be staying in HD much longer... This one game is enough to push me over the edge. If this had been a weak human team that ran slowdown -5 and beat me, though frustrating, I would've accepted it, but this is absurd..