Quote: Originally Posted By arssanguinus on 4/25/2010Even with a perfect storm of bad strategic decisions, hitting just 63% of your free throws woudl have STILL gotten you a win.
You talk like this is some kind of controllable factor that I could have adjusted. Again, my FT ratings are slightly below average, but that leads to a 41% FT shooting night? That leads to a C- FT shooter going 0-5?

Quote: Originally Posted By dcy0827 on 4/25/2010
You're actually trying to run out the argument that "A beat B, and B beat C, so naturally A should clobber C"? Seriously? I hate this argument to be quite honest, but after seeing how West Georgia clobbered Montevallo and how I clobbered St. Leo, I think a 10 point win for me was more than a justly expected result.

Hey, here's an idea. Instead of ******** and moaning about how the Sim is out to screw you Never suggested it was out to screw just me or anyone for that matter, it just happens from time to time, maybe, just maybe, you should read some of the responses in this thread and learn a little about the game. There is some good, valid info in here explaining different ways you could have improved your gameplan, yet all you do is put your hands over your ears and scream at the top of your lungs that the Sim continually screws you over. I'm not saying that the info/justification I've been given here is bad....does it justify the result completely...the easy and short answer here is, no it does not. That's a gimme win for me all friggin day.

You imply in one of your earlier posts that Dalter has a predisposed bias against you and anything you post. I said dalter's more likely to disagree with my argument because of how hard and brash I come off and that he's just in doing so...I also stated that when it comes to boxscores, all I've ever seen him do is back the WIS side of things and asked him to show me a thread where he didn't and he never found me one for whatever reason. I'm not trotting this out as a "poor me" routine or anything like that, I'm just acknowledging that people can tend to want to disagree with me because of the assholish way(s) that I come off, and that that's probably justified. Well, I think it's pretty damn obvious to anyone familiar with any of the recent threads that you have a predisposed opinion of Dalter and what you think he stands for. In one realm of the game...I've seen Dalter speak out against the sim and its flaws...he generally isn't an HD slappy. In your mind, he's the ultimate WIS apologist but I can tell you that outside of maybe OR, there is no one that I have seen yet who has been more CRITICAL of WIS and how they operate HD than Dalter. He's posted some valuable info here, but because of who posted it, and your bias against him, you decide to take it with a grain of salt. That's false, I just don't think that the justification adds up to the result, when you guys simply EXPECT me to ACCEPT your findings as gospel and that I should praise you and move on....not happening because this shouldn't have happened, regardless of my gameplan. Your choice, but the bottom line here is that you made some basic coaching errors in your gameplan that ended up costing you. And it probably shouldn't have...again, there's no guarantee that up-tempo would have wore them out, they've got some pretty good ST numbers...so that's really just an assumption on y'alls part.

And by the way, the talent disparity between the two teams in question is not nearly as large as you would like to think it is. As Furry said, you have the better team in this matchup, but relative to other D2 teams, yours just isn't very good. I won't disagree with that, but with that said, AASU v. Montevallo is a gimme win for AASU, all day every day, period. Sorry, but that's the brutal, honest truth.

Quote: Originally Posted By gillispie on 4/25/2010ok colonels, i have skipped over most of the cat fighting. but before i give you an explanation, lets set a base line here. both teams in the game are pretty bad. meaning, it would take a real down year for either of you to be better than a 99%/1% dog to my team in that world. so, from where most people are standing, one team upsetting the other is no big deal. if you wonder why people are giving you a whats the big deal reaction, well, that's why.

your iq is bad, theirs is horrible. really bad iq = screwy results, and i see nothing wrong with that.

i don't blame you for not running uptempo. but this is probably one of the 1% of cases where i would probably run uptempo myself. still, not a big deal IMO. uptempo and bad iq are probably just as likely to produce a screwy result anyway.

you play a 2-3 zone that is not strong. they shot 7-16 threes. no big mystery there. a little above average? maybe, but no more. I run man to man.

your poor ft shooters shot even worse. not too badly though, statistically, its very unimpressive.

your offense played poorly in terms of shooting. considering their defense, its kind of surprising, but considering your offense, its not an eye opener by any stretch.

so, in summary, you played a sim who is widely reknown for leaning on their best players hard and taking lots of 3s. the first part negated much of your age/walkon advantage, the latter when paired with your zone gives the sim a fighting chance. if you live and die by the 3, well, sometimes you live by it :) also, you were away, and as much as you would like to discount that, it is fairly important. all in all, i would say you got unlucky sure, but really, its not surprising at all. by repeatedly calling wolf on games that just aren't that unrealistic, it really diminishes your "HDs randomness is broken" argument.

before you respond, keep in mind both teams are less than 1% against the top teams in the division and when that is true, its hard to find a game with skewed results the community will care about less

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/25/2010
After some reflection, I'll also add that I regret getting personal. Very frustrating person to deal with, but no reason for me to fly off the handle in that manner.

colonels, hopefully you got enough rational explanations and breakdowns from me, dcy, gillispie and furry to develop a better understanding.

Quote: Originally Posted By dcy0827 on 4/25/2010Hopefully, but I seriously doubt that will happen Dalter. He seems to be stuck with a certain mindset and despite his claims of having an open mind, has yet to show it as it relates to game results

Quote: Originally Posted By fd343ny on 4/26/2010


looks to me like this was about a one out of five ish chance of losing without game planning and a one out of twenty chance of losing with game planning

why not game plan, even if favored without it?

Quote: Originally Posted By wronoj on 4/26/2010colonels, when Gillispie speaks, you should listen.

so he missed the D, so what? the rest of his explanation is valid, and he didn't point out that you definitely should have played a +D.

the real problem you are having here is that your basic explanation is "i shouldn't have to gameplan against a bad team"... well, you should gameplan against them, or you shouldn't complain when the result doesn't go your way.

come join me in the Upstate in Wooden. Lots of good coaches there who will be happy to help you out..

Quote: Originally Posted By a_in_the_b on 4/26/2010
Your turnover differential could have had something to do with the point guard with a 100 passing rating. As for the field goal percentage. . why don't YOU prove to us why they shouldn't ever outshoot you or turn the ball over less? Because my LPs and PEs are considerably better than theirs. My shooters are significantly better than their shooters. Tell me why you think Armstrong Atlantic should be immune from having a bad night and why they should be prohibited from having a good one? Never said or suggested that that shouldn't happen, but converesely, tell me why the perfect storm happened allowing Montevallo to win a game they had no business even contending in?