Quote: Originally posted by bugface1980 on 5/26/2010and why would someone regameplan for the second game seble?  did they pick their second best game plan for the first game... tell me where that makes sense... ridiculous.  They are going to regameplan if they lost because they lost the first game... why would being able to regameplan hold any valid argument?

if the losing team can adjust to defend what beat them the first time...why cant the winning team adjust to attack with something different?

Quote: Originally Posted By pinkeye on 5/26/2010

Quote: Originally posted by bugface1980 on 5/26/2010
and why would someone regameplan for the second game seble? did they pick their second best game plan for the first game... tell me where that makes sense... ridiculous. They are going to regameplan if they lost because they lost the first game... why would being able to regameplan hold any valid argument?

if the losing team can adjust to defend what beat them the first time...why cant the winning team adjust to attack with something different

Why should the winning team have to re-win the game it already won?

Quote: Originally Posted By pinkeye on 5/26/2010

Quote: Originally posted by bugface1980 on 5/26/2010
and why would someone regameplan for the second game seble? did they pick their second best game plan for the first game... tell me where that makes sense... ridiculous. They are going to regameplan if they lost because they lost the first game... why would being able to regameplan hold any valid argument?

if the losing team can adjust to defend what beat them the first time...why cant the winning team adjust to attack with something different

Answering a question with a question? Why would a team that lost in the sweet 16 or the elite 8 adjust their game plan when playing a team they lost to? Ding Ding Ding... cause they lost. I'm done on this conversation after I say that there were a lot of way better and fairer solutions than the one that was decided on. Good luck to my opponent in the Sweet 16 for the second time.

I have been a Seble supporter from the start but the fact he can't see how a game plan can be dramatically changed is absurd and makes me seriously question the leadership of the game.

Let me just throw out a couple examples. How about A. You decide your opponents per defense is weak and you go much more outside shooting than normal. Your opponent is caught off guard and runs a -3, you light up his packed in D and win the game. Well what is he going to do now that he has a second chance and just lost by 20 going -3. He sure as hell isn't going -3.

How about this, maybe you decided you wanted to shut one guy down, so you double team him. Well the rest of his team goes off and you lose. So what are you doing the next game? No way are you double teaming this time.

I can not fathom how this can't be seen

The funny thing is I have not seen one coach openly cry about losing because there ratings dropped. Was this an issue with any coaches? IMO, I'd rather lost the first game with a minor rating drop/bug that hit every team then to get multiple times and win the next time. Anyone besides seble actually think it should be re-ran, even the teams who lost?

I absolutely hate taking away wins from people. That's the last thing I want to do (not to mention taking hours out of my evening to fix things). I could have taken the easy solution and let the games stand, but that wouldn't be fair to the teams who lost, possibly because of this error. There were teams that changed by 20+ points overall. That's not insignificant.

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I won in the s16, but lost to mbalding in the e8. I too agree, two wrongs do not make a right. the games should of stood. i am now just hoping to get back to the e8.

Quote: Originally posted by seble on 5/26/2010I absolutely hate taking away wins from people. That's the last thing I want to do (not to mention taking hours out of my evening to fix things). I could have taken the easy solution and let the games stand, but that wouldn't be fair to the teams who lost, possibly because of this error. There were teams that changed by 20+ points overall. That's not insignificant.

I think most would disagree. I don't see the difference in a player who was say 92 reb, 97 def, 88 lp, 52 ath (main cores) dropping like 3-5 each. Thats IF it only dropped out of main cores, hell if some dropped from passing/per/bh on a big - who cares? If they dropped over 50 points sure, that is a full season+ of improvement, but over a couple points here and there? Hardly seems worth it, IMO.

Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 5/26/2010The funny thing is I have not seen one coach openly cry about losing because there ratings dropped. Was this an issue with any coaches? IMO, I'd rather lost the first game with a minor rating drop/bug that hit every team then to get multiple times and win the next time. Anyone besides seble actually think it should be re-ran, even the teams who lost?

All the coaches who I've seen post stuff (their teams lost) were against the re-run.

Both teams I beat lost 11 points, the same as what I lost. I don't see how I had an advantage. I'm pretty sure the biggest difference in most cases would be 1 - 3 overall points.

if some teams were changed by 20+ points and the opponents by 0 then the games probably should be re-run, but it sounds like everybody suffered the same.

you know what the simple thing is...give a free season to those that lost...that's what 12-24 users? as opposed to losing tons of business and ******* off people not only in that world but HD-wide? Wow...incredible thought process...for your sake I hope this isn't your Waterloo, but me thinks I've seen this before...............

And like furry referenced...why even bring this up if nobody noticed/sent a ticket?

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Quote: Originally posted by mbalding on 5/26/2010if some teams were changed by 20+ points and the opponents by 0 then the games probably should be re-run, but it sounds like everybody suffered the same. 

Teams did not change the same amount.

Oh, just one more thing... I apologize if i offended anyone on here or if I came off as whining... I'm not that way... It is just that I am having trouble understanding how this shift that affected me and my opponents basically the same amount of team points (around 1 % for both me and my opponents) is enough of a reason to run our games through a random simulator once again... especially with the gameplanning factor thrown in. That is bigger than a 7-11 point overall rating difference to me.