ODL XXXVII Commentary Topic

If you guys would like to go back to letting him fall to me in the second, I'd be more than happy to oblige.  Neither Wilt nor Moses is making it out of the top 5, so as the second guy on my team, yes, please, let him fall.  I've used him twice.  I've won the whole enchilada both times.  $10.2M is not too expensive to me!
7/10/2010 12:53 PM
banditone - Charles Barkley, Willis Reed, Julius Erving,,
ncih - Moses Malone, Donyell Marshall, Bob Lanier,
empdenied - Wilt Chamberlain, Glen Rice, Manu Ginobili,
tricky24 - Dennis Rodman, Kevin Durant, Zelmo Beaty,
dh555 - Larry Bird, Robert Parish, Terry Porter,
uvasooner - Magic Johnson, Swen Nater, Amare Stoudemire,

jakotay - Michael Jordan, Wes Unseld, Deron Williams,
xxevilivexx - Lebron James, Steve Nash, Hakeem Olajuwon,
Shapandrew7 - Dwyane Wade, Mel Daniels, Gary Payton,
robocoach - David Robinson, Peja Stojakovic, Elton Brand,
sappy - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Ben Wallace, David Lee
scudmissle - Shaquille O'Neal, John Stockton, Antawn Jamison

eleibowitz - Chris Paul, Tim Duncan, Walt Frazier
tarheel1991 - Karl Malone, Ray Allen, Darrell Walker
longtallbrad - Oscar Robertson, Dikembe mutombo, Reggie Miller
badja - Tracy McGrady, Dana Barros, Kevin Willis
ashamael - Dwight Howard, Troy Murphy, Kevin Johnson
gtak - Shawn Marion, Paul Pierce, Brad Daugherty

lhtgk - Jason Kidd, Kobe Bryant, Shawn Kemp
captainzen - Chauncey Billups, Kevin McHale, Tom Bowerwinkle
felonius - Bill Russell, Dirk Nowitzki, Clyde Drexler
98average - Kevin Garnett, Mookie Blaylock, Vince Carter
coachcroft - Artis Gilmore, Jerry Lucas, Scottie Pippen
bsmuke - Bob McAdoo, Carlos Boozer
 
7/11/2010 11:31 PM (edited)
I really should be working, but I want to take a moment here instead.


banditone - Charles Barkley, Willis Reed, Julius Erving,,

I'm not sure how I feel about this.  I think Chuck is best used as a SF, and Doc as a SG... but not together.  I think you're light on boards if you use them both in the frontcourt, and you're sure as hell light on boards if you use them like I just suggested.  Reed is a nice compliment player but is in no way enough boards to allow you to use both Barkley & Doc as your forwards.


ncih - Moses Malone, Donyell Marshall, Bob Lanier,

Marshall is a nice compliment to Moses.  Lanier is a nice third frontcourt mate.  This should be a solid rebounding, efg% team at this point.


empdenied - Wilt Chamberlain, Glen Rice, Manu Ginobili,

I think you're making the typical Wilt mistake.  Unless you're bringing Manu or Rice off the bench, that is.  Not sure why you would draft a bench guy that early in the draft, so I stand by my original statement.  Wilt won't get you all the boards you need by himself.  Rice is horrible on the boards, even for a SG... so putting him and Ginobili on the floor at the same time is going to hurt a lot.


tricky24 - Dennis Rodman, Kevin Durant, Zelmo Beaty,

If we had the 09-10 players, this would be frightening.  Since we don't, it's not as scary.  Durant is a nice scoring option, but I don't think he's a first option.  Scoring is cheap, so they say, so you will probably be okay later.  I don't like Beaty, but he's a nice option in $42M.


dh555 - Larry Bird, Robert Parish, Terry Porter,

LOVE Bird + Porter.  Extremely efficient duo.  Parish is a nice compliment.  You obviously need more boards, but you've got a head start on a lot of people when it comes to a balanced front/back line.

uvasooner - Magic Johnson, Swen Nater, Amare Stoudemire,

Normally, I'd say Amare gets too few boards to be your PF and to be picked in the third round.  Magic (and Nater) change that.  Magic & Amare get to the line a ton, too.  This should be fearsome.


jakotay - Michael Jordan, Wes Unseld, Deron Williams,

There's no way Deron Williams should have fallen this far.  His 07-08 season is incredible in $42M leagues.  Extremely nice pairing with MJ.  Unseld gives you what you need underneath and sets you up to flesh out the team in later rounds.  You should have an easy time filling this roster from this point on.  Great start.


xxevilivexx - Lebron James, Steve Nash, Hakeem Olajuwon,

Wow.  Lebron + Nash is extremely deadly, especially in a $42M league.  I've said many times how I feel about the Dream in the sim, but this is perfect situation for him:  1)  He's not your primary scorer.  2)  You have a TON of ast%.  3) You have a good rebounding shooting guard.  You might feel like you've spent a lot of money thus far, but trust me, you're right on track to doing what you really want to do.


Shapandrew7 - Dwyane Wade, Mel Daniels, Gary Payton,

This is about right for the Glove in a $42M cap.  I like where you're going here, though I am disappointed that again, D-Wade is not playing PG for someone.  Anyway, what I like... Good boards from your backcourt.  Daniels is a good front line anchor.  You've got some threes, though you really could use a bomber.  You might be able to get a straight bomber at the 3 since you've got a good rebounding backcourt.  You might want to keep going on the rebounding idea, though, and just get bomber back-ups.  Either way, this is a good core.


robocoach - David Robinson, Peja Stojakovic, Elton Brand,

Love the admiral.  I hate Peja, but he IS great in $42M.  Brand... not so much.  Not that he's not good... it's that you needed serious boards with Peja at the 3 (and the admiral isn't a boardlord himself).  There's a point guard or two out there that might make it back to you who can help you, but otherwise, I fear you're going to get dominated on the boards (and therefore lose a lot of games that you end up out shooting your opponent while turning the ball over less).

7/10/2010 1:08 PM
I think I know what piece needs to be added next; but whether it falls to me is a different story. I actually wanted to draft someone else instead of Hakeem, but I can't believe he fell to the third round. How could I resist
7/10/2010 2:42 PM
sappy - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Ben Wallace, David Lee

The good - You've got the defensive boards locked down.
The bad - You're not going to get to the line very much as is, and right now you've got a severe lack of threes.
The ugly - Your opponents aren't going to get many offensive rebounds.  Did I mention that it's ugly for opponents?


scudmissle - Shaquille O'Neal, John Stockton, Antawn Jamison

Shaq = efg% monster in the paint.  Stockton = efg% monster who'll make Shaq even better.  Bad news is that you've spent a lot of money right there.  Good news is:  Jamison's cheap, gives you more boards and threes.  And few turnovers.  This is an incredible trio.  The remaining two pieces are easy to get, too.  Wow.
7/10/2010 3:07 PM
eleibowitz - Chris Paul, Tim Duncan, Walt Frazier

Frazier gives you more boards in the backcourt, which you'll need, as Duncan's not near the rebounder that today's analysts would have you believe (not in the sim, anyway).  He has a couple of good board seasons, but they're not as $42M friendly as others.  Duncan's like Hakeem IMO - one of those guys who is sooo good IRL, yet their statlines don't tell half the tale and therefore aren't as good in the sim.  I'm not feeling this team, but you've got some good pieces to build on.

tarheel1991 - Karl Malone, Ray Allen, Darrell Walker

Mailman + Shuttlesworth = fantastic combo.  Mailman has high enough usage to lessen the impact of Allen's lack of FTAs.  Great inside-outside mix with relatively low turnovers.  Walker helps balance out rebounding woes, though you've got tons of room to get even more boards, as you can still draft all frontcourt positions.

7/10/2010 3:23 PM (edited)
ODL newbie here.   LOTS of defense drafted in here, which is impressive.  I think most of these teams would win 55+ games in an OL.  Now my team on the other hand...
7/10/2010 4:09 PM
defense is a bonus.  It's nice to have but literally the 8th or 9th thing I look at.  Many other owners think the same way.
7/10/2010 4:14 PM
I think that's really a function (lots of defense) of most of the top players just happening to have high defensive ratings, especially all the high-rebound guys - finding one that doesn't have defense over 80 is basically impossible. Personally there are times I wish I could volunteer to knock 15 or more off the defensive rating of one of my players so he would cost less - Walker is a prime example, I wish his defense was closer to 80 to save me a couple hundred thousand bucks. 
7/10/2010 4:25 PM
Yeah.  It has to do with the crappy way WIS figures out the DR.  It actually uses dreb% as part of the formula to figure out DR, which is total and utter crap.  It's something they're supposed to be fixing in the new update.
7/10/2010 4:42 PM
longtallbrad - Oscar Robertson, Dikembe mutombo, Reggie Miller

Oscar was a godsend as late as you got him.  Mutombo is a nice compliment and gives you exactly what you need when you have Oscar (a relatively low turnover rebounder).  Miller is beautiful here... gets to the line, gives a ton of threes, and does so very efficiently, with a high efg% and low tov%.  This is a very nice trio.  I hate you, though, because I was totally going to take Miller.  He rarely falls this far, so I wasn't that surprised, but after seeing him fall as far as he did, I really thought I'd get him.


badja - Tracy McGrady, Dana Barros, Kevin Willis

McGrady + Barros = ridiculously badass $42M backcourt.  You're covered in every area you need in the backcourt.  Willis gives you boards, if inefficiently.  Still, he's better than some of the trash we'll all draft to get our boards later.  Good value with each pick.  So far, I dig it.


ashamael - Dwight Howard, Troy Murphy, Kevin Johnson

I promise I am not trying to draft the same team.  Howard was 5th on my list, Murphy 3rd & KJ 6th (of realistic draft picks in each round). 
7/10/2010 11:35 PM
Didn't mean to torment you, ash.  I didn't expect Miller to still be around.  He basically does nothing in this sim except shoot 3s and FTs, but does those two valuable things so well that I impulsively grabbed him.  I teamed him with Magic two ODLs ago and ended up with the best regular season record, but I'm more uncertain about Oscar...as you've pointed out, his numbers - unlike Magic's - are kind of illusory.  Obviously I need passing and rebounding from the next couple picks.
7/10/2010 11:49 PM
gtak - Shawn Marion, Paul Pierce, Brad Daugherty

The Matrix & the Truth give you good rebounding wingmen.  Both give you some threes (pierce a lot, depending on the season).  Pierce gets to the line either a lot or a ton... matrix... not so much...  Daugherty gives you a high efg% guy that'll add some boards.  You're working a good tov% right now, too.  There's a lot to like about this team and the missing pieces shouldn't be that hard to get.


lhtgk - Jason Kidd, Kobe Bryant, Shawn Kemp

I don't like Kemp, but he's a good compliment to Kidd/Kobe.  Good efg%, good oreb%.  He fouls a lot and turns the ball over a lot, though.  But you really did need that efg% (and oreb%) with Kidd/Kobe on the floor.  So, even though I don't like Kemp, I like the pick AND the trio.


captainzen - Chauncey Billups, Kevin McHale, Tom Boerwinkle

You couldn't have helped Billups more than you did with Boerwinkle.  And in turn, McHale's already high fg% should go up even more.  You still need a lot of boards, but the 2300 minutes or so you get of bullwinkle helps tremendously.


felonius - Bill Russell, Dirk Nowitzki, Clyde Drexler

You've now gotten two steals with Russell and Drexler.  As soon as I realized I overlooked him, I wanted to go back in time and pick him.  It's hard to get good SGs who give you good efg% (100+ 3s) while getting to the line a lot AND grabbing a lot of offensive boards.  I'm assuming you use a particular season as I type all of this.  If not, little of this applies, yet he's still a good pick.  If you are using that season... add good ast% & tov% to it.  Absolutely perfect pick for balancing out what Dirk doesn't do.


98average - Kevin Garnett, Mookie Blaylock, Vince Carter

I thought you took Mookie too high, but his value is rising in $42M caps, and he's a guy you don't see many like.  With these three guys, you've certainly got a good ast%, which should help all of their *less than optimal* efg%.  You're going to dominate the boards if you use Garnett at SF.  There's a lot of beauty in these three picks.  They synergize well.  Very flexible moving into the 4th & 5th rounds, too, which is always a plus.
7/11/2010 7:52 PM
ps Im using that 94-95 25 usg; 52+% efg; 6/12 Creb; (400 fta 400 3pa); 16 asg; 2 stl% 2700 minute season
7/11/2010 8:16 PM (edited)
Yeah that's the one I'm talking about.
7/11/2010 8:14 PM
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