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Report concludes that nearly 80 percent of oil from Gulf spill remains

Aug 16, 2010, 16:56

Athens, Ga. – A report released today by the Georgia Sea Grant and the University of Georgia concludes that up to 79 percent of the oil released into the Gulf of Mexico from the Deepwater Horizon well has not been recovered and remains a threat to the ecosystem.

The report, authored by five prominent marine scientists, strongly contradicts media reports that suggest that only 25 percent of the oil from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill remains.

“One major misconception is that oil that has dissolved into water is gone and, therefore, harmless,” said Charles Hopkinson, director of Georgia Sea Grant and professor of marine sciences in the University of Georgia Franklin College of Arts and Sciences. “The oil is still out there, and it will likely take years to completely degrade. We are still far from a complete understanding of what its impacts are.”

 

8/17/2010 9:17 AM
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You realize, of course, that this means that this group will get more money to "continue their research".

FOLLOW.

THE.

MONEY.
8/17/2010 3:14 PM
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This is the same principle as asking the security agencies whether Iraq has WMDs.  Of course they're going to say "Why, yes, they have shitloads.  We need to invade."

Ask an environmentalist if there is a problem and they'll say "Why, yes, there is a big problem.  We need more money to study the impact."

SSDD

8/17/2010 3:16 PM
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Posted by creilmann on 8/17/2010 9:17:00 AM (view original):

Report concludes that nearly 80 percent of oil from Gulf spill remains

Aug 16, 2010, 16:56

Athens, Ga. – A report released today by the Georgia Sea Grant and the University of Georgia concludes that up to 79 percent of the oil released into the Gulf of Mexico from the Deepwater Horizon well has not been recovered and remains a threat to the ecosystem.

The report, authored by five prominent marine scientists, strongly contradicts media reports that suggest that only 25 percent of the oil from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill remains.

“One major misconception is that oil that has dissolved into water is gone and, therefore, harmless,” said Charles Hopkinson, director of Georgia Sea Grant and professor of marine sciences in the University of Georgia Franklin College of Arts and Sciences. “The oil is still out there, and it will likely take years to completely degrade. We are still far from a complete understanding of what its impacts are.”

 

Another vague could be a disaster story.

All we really know is the intitial stories about this were all horrific, and nothing like what was predicted is happening.

It might be a little better or a little worse than it looks, it just isnt anywhere near as bad as we were being told
8/18/2010 2:59 PM
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Simple question, on what basis did you come to the conclusion that this was not as bad as it initially seemed?
8/19/2010 9:26 AM
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Posted by toddcommish on 8/17/2010 3:14:00 PM (view original):
You realize, of course, that this means that this group will get more money to "continue their research".

FOLLOW.

THE.

MONEY.
This may be a quick and convenient way to dismiss Sea Grant except that

A) The Sea Grant has enjoyed a steady source of funding regardless of the oil spill.  After all, the Gulf has been a wreck for decades and there are constant opportunities for new research.

and

B) When we FOLLOW. THE. MONEY. we find that Sea Grant is administered by NOAA and receives it's funding by way of grants, scholarships and fellowships through NOAA, the very same government organization who reported that 3/4 of the oil is gone.  So what would be the incentive for Sea Grant to completely contradict the hand that feeds them?


This is the same principle as asking the security agencies whether Iraq has WMDs.  Of course they're going to say "Why, yes, they have shitloads.  We need to invade."

No, it's more like the White House saying there are WMD's in Iraq and then having a government-funded university program go to Iraq and say there are no WMD's.
8/19/2010 1:40 PM (edited)
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Posted by swamphawk22 on 8/18/2010 2:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by creilmann on 8/17/2010 9:17:00 AM (view original):

Report concludes that nearly 80 percent of oil from Gulf spill remains

Aug 16, 2010, 16:56

Athens, Ga. – A report released today by the Georgia Sea Grant and the University of Georgia concludes that up to 79 percent of the oil released into the Gulf of Mexico from the Deepwater Horizon well has not been recovered and remains a threat to the ecosystem.

The report, authored by five prominent marine scientists, strongly contradicts media reports that suggest that only 25 percent of the oil from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill remains.

“One major misconception is that oil that has dissolved into water is gone and, therefore, harmless,” said Charles Hopkinson, director of Georgia Sea Grant and professor of marine sciences in the University of Georgia Franklin College of Arts and Sciences. “The oil is still out there, and it will likely take years to completely degrade. We are still far from a complete understanding of what its impacts are.”

 

Another vague could be a disaster story.

All we really know is the intitial stories about this were all horrific, and nothing like what was predicted is happening.

It might be a little better or a little worse than it looks, it just isnt anywhere near as bad as we were being told
How is this report any more vague than the information that you've been using to play down the scope of this?
8/19/2010 10:24 AM
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My point is we may not know, but the actual impact isnt there. We are not losing beachs all along the gulf and south Atlantic coast. We are not seeing a complete collapse of local seafood.

If a weatherman tells you it is going to rain and you look out the window and see no clouds you might question his forcast.
8/19/2010 2:42 PM
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Again with the crummy analogies.

So your argument comes down to, "since I cannot see oil-filled beaches and truckloads of dead dolphins on the news and since nobody has died from eating seafood, everything must be fine."

Had you read any of the articles I've posted, you would find out that there is still a significant amount of oil just inches below the sand and that the oil seems to have already made it's way into the food chain.
8/19/2010 4:26 PM
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BP’s 22-Mile-Long Monster

The undersea plumes that BP and the feds denied are still there.

Is most of the oil gone or not? At the beginning of the month the government released its assessment of where the 4.9 million barrels of oil from the Deepwater Horizon had gone. Its rose-colored-glassesconclusion: about one quarter of the oil that gushed up from the Macondo well was physically removed (skimming, booming, piping to surface), one quarter was dissolved in the gulf waters, and one quarter was busted up by chemical dispersants or natural weathering into microscopic droplets. That left “only” 26 percent to foul shores and surface waters. That has triggered the predictable “Ha! I told you those crazy enviros were exaggerating how bad this was” chorus in the blogosphere.
8/19/2010 4:27 PM
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I did read your article. 5 scientists from the University of Georgia have a theory that contradicts the more popular theory.

My analogy is valid. If we have people writing theorys about what is happening, but no one sees it, should we believe it without support?

And again I am not saying that nothing is wrong and nothing happened. I am saying that it is becoming clear that it isnt as bad as we were told. It could still be bad, but we dont seem to know right now.
8/19/2010 4:31 PM
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I did read your article. 5 scientists from the University of Georgia have a theory that contradicts the more popular theory. 

What is the more popular theory?  Where did it come from?
8/19/2010 4:34 PM
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Screw the theories.  Everyone that insists the water/food is safe should have to subsist on gulf-caught food for a few months.  If they end up dead, they were wrong.
8/19/2010 4:38 PM
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So we are to believe that the Obama Administration, front and center in making this the worst disaster ever, are now covering up the real disaster? I find that hard to believe.

Even so, we are still far from the original doomsday stories.
8/19/2010 4:39 PM
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The old "if they drown, they're innocent" trick.
8/19/2010 4:40 PM
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