Additionaly, we haven't heard from the most important person in all of this, magracefan. Does he have a particular grievance is this issue? If he's okay with the reading of the rules and agrees that beirnej1 and abfball60 have rightfully made this deal, then we should just drop this and move on.

Posted by crazyjoe02 on 11/26/2010 5:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gumbercules on 11/26/2010 5:01:00 PM (view original):
Maybe "come back to" wasn't the term I was looking for.  I meant "agreed to".  The beirnej1 pick is #9, and the magracefan pick was #10. 

This is frustrating only because I feel less and less like I have a leg to stand on argumentatively but still feel in my heart that this isn't right.

This is true, and that's the difference between a trade being officially agreed to and just being discussed. Parties involved might feel that they were wronged and refuse to deal with each other in the future (much like I think the Yankees feel in the Cliff Lee deal) but legally there is nothing that can be done. The Yankees weren't able to petition to the commissioners office saying that we had a deal agreed to and Cliff Lee should be removed from the Rangers and awarded to us, but they can chose not to negotiate with the M's in the future.

Posted by abfball60 on 11/26/2010 5:09:00 PM (view original):
There was no malice in what I was trying to do. I was not trying to bend the rules on a technicality. I was trying to negotiate with multiple owners over a busy holiday weekend. One of them jumped the gun and sent you a sm about a potential deal that hadn't been fully negotiated and ironed out. That's all.

OK, I think the arguments have been made on both sides.  I am listening to those who disagree with me and I am considering all the issues.  If you have something else to say, sitemail me. 

gumber, I think I speak for everyone when I say that the time and dedication you poured into this league is unparalleled in WIS. Most of us have no idea how many hours you put in throughout the bidding process. And we are indebted to you for your service. I’m glad we were able to have a constructive dialogue without things getting personal.

One point that needs making is that this situation, and the two days of intense debates that ensued, highlights precisely how much we all care about this league. These types of discussions don’t often happen in progressives. Here’s to hoping that this enthusiasm and intensity carries forward over the entire 11 seasons.

Posted by abfball60 on 11/27/2010 2:06:00 PM (view original):

gumber, I think I speak for everyone when I say that the time and dedication you poured into this league is unparalleled in WIS. Most of us have no idea how many hours you put in throughout the bidding process. And we are indebted to you for your service. I’m glad we were able to have a constructive dialogue without things getting personal.

One point that needs making is that this situation, and the two days of intense debates that ensued, highlights precisely how much we all care about this league. These types of discussions don’t often happen in progressives. Here’s to hoping that this enthusiasm and intensity carries forward over the entire 11 seasons.

Posted by coldfeet on 11/27/2010 2:47:00 PM (view original):
HAHAHAHA. that **** loaf kneeneighbor checked in...... we should get a private forum so that whining quitting league bailer keeps his 2 cents to himself. wahhhhhhh cold water..... wahhhhhh post bra photos. wahh i put together a **** team, i'll just quit.