I'm assuming 20-10 distribution would be the same as 4-2. Is that correct?

If I am, my big plan after non-cons was to give the top guys 20, the secondary 10 and the rest 0.

Mike-
I also think you are really underutilizing Duncan off the bench. As I said, I would have him at the #2 spot on the depth chart in 3 positions, aiming to get him 20 mpg. His SPD/ATH and offense, mixed with better IQ's than most of your guys will allow him to be a consistent 15 point guy

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/28/2016 11:24:00 AM (view original):
I'm assuming 20-10 distribution would be the same as 4-2. Is that correct?

If I am, my big plan after non-cons was to give the top guys 20, the secondary 10 and the rest 0.

Correct, although if you have 4 starters set to 20 there still isn't much variation so it is almost the same as all 0's. The whole idea with the smaller numbers is that you really get a better feel for the separation between players. 20 vs 10 seems like a lot but it is really just 2 vs 1. Whereas 6 vs 1 would be the same as 60 vs 10; real separation defining who you want taking shots.

As I said, Duncan is blocked by promises to Pritts/Davin. And Harris is just plain better than any of them. Duncan got 21.1 minutes per game last season and averaged 6.2 pts/1.8 turnovers. Pritts may be able to PG and, if so, that will open up minutes for Franklin/Duncan. Although neither of them really established themselves as guys I'd want getting 20m last season. I'm also not sure either is appreciably better now than they were over the last 10 last season.

The idea is that I'll have two at 20, Harris should be one, and 3-4 at 10. I don't think I have a shooter who deserves 3x as many shots as another. If I do, he hasn't stepped forward.

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/28/2016 11:51:00 AM (view original):
As I said, Duncan is blocked by promises to Pritts/Davin. And Harris is just plain better than any of them. Duncan got 21.1 minutes per game last season and averaged 6.2 pts/1.8 turnovers. Pritts may be able to PG and, if so, that will open up minutes for Franklin/Duncan. Although neither of them really established themselves as guys I'd want getting 20m last season. I'm also not sure either is appreciably better now than they were over the last 10 last season.

The idea is that I'll have two at 20, Harris should be one, and 3-4 at 10. I don't think I have a shooter who deserves 3x as many shots as another. If I do, he hasn't stepped forward.

You haven't given him a chance to step forward.

He had close to 600 minutes to step forward last season.

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/28/2016 11:54:00 AM (view original):
He had close to 600 minutes to step forward last season.

If you don't have the distribution set to feed him the ball nobody can "step forward." This isn't like real basketball in the sense where a player can get in the game, get a hot hand, then the coach can make changes to start feeding him the ball to ride the hot hand, maybe discovering an unknown scorer. Because we preset distribution and it cannot be changed during the sim, the only people who step forward are the ones we tell too. With how your distro was set before, the Sim engine was basically deciding who should shoot based off in game match-ups and situational opportunities. I don't like ceding that control to the sim engine--I prefer to define who plays what role on the team. Who the sim has "step forward" will vary on every single night, so it is near impossible to get any consistency. That is why most sim teams have like 8 guys averaging between 6-8 points.

My team was worse last year. Duncan and Franklin were two of the better players(Harris/Snyder made up the top 4). I won't pretend that I recall who had 20 and who had 10 last year but there's a very good chance one of them had 20. And there wasn't much production to speak of. But they were part of my turnover problem.

Really their fates depend on Pritts/Zeier/Viscovsky. If I move Pritts to PG, his BH/P skills are improving, I might be able to use Franklin at SG/Duncan as #2 SF to give them more opportunity. But, if I have to keep Pritts at SG/SF, I can't see how they get 20m per night.

Four players set at equal distribution will take shots according to how open they are, among other factors. The more push distribution for one guy, as for example 40-20-20-20 or 50-10-10-10, the more you are also pushing one player to force up more shots. He has to really be worth it. His FG% will decline.

I like your first scenario--Pritts at PG, Franklin at SG, Harris at SF, with duncan #2 at SG and SF (as I said before, I would also put him as #2 at PF). Don't underestimate IQ's when doing your distro either. A freshman with crap IQ's but good skills will be a less effective offensive option (more turnovers, lower shooting %) than a a player with good IQ's and average skills.

I just read through this and I have some thoughts

Harris is your best player by far, and should be dealt with as so, he is the only one on your team with a respectable defense and ATH and he also has the best passing and his LP will allow him to score on guards and forwards- get him as much minutes as possible. He has a stamina of 60 so that might be an issue but defiantly start him and make him on the tired setting.

Giving everyone 0's can be a good idea if you have no good offensive options on your team that you want to get the ball in the hands of. I ran it with my Rutgers at Newark team and had success, I think I went to the sweet sixteen that year. Darnocc started all of his seasons at 0's and switched it when it stopped working. His resume should show you he knows what he is talking about.
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/History.aspx?tid=3817
You don't have any offensive options that on my team I would consider an offensive option, you have some guys that are less terrible than others, but no actual good options.

A note on that, I ran it with fastbreak, I think Darnocc ran it with flex but I'm not positive, he also probably ran it with other offenses. You run motion, that is an offense where the ball is supposed to move a lot and get what the defense gives you, which is good for the 0

one thing that I can not stress enough is that ATH and DEF run this game, it is very rare to have a good team without it. Based on the ratings of the guys you have recruited, you have not focused on that enough.

Look at my RUN team, I don't have any guards this season with solid guard skills, but they have ATH and DEF so they do not hurt my team. My team is #2 right now in the conference tournament.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/Ratings.aspx?pid=3312180
this guy I consider to be the best D3 guard i have ever had, ratings wise at least. Notice he is low in stats that are not important for guards (REB/SB/LP). When I look at your team I see that most guys (I know you only recruited 4) are about the same in every rating. Just want to make sure you aren't looking at REB in your guards for example.

You are focusing too much on the stats, everything does not show up in the stats. A guy with good defense does not always show that in steals or blocks, he uses that defense to stop the other team from scoring but it's hard to look at that. You just have to play the best guys based on the ratings, and trust that they will give you the best output.

You are also pulling up stats from last year, players improve from season to season in ratings and IQ, and it especially shows in freshman and sometimes sophomores. Do not hold a players freshman stats against him in his sophomore or junior years, IQ goes from F to B in that time period which makes a HUGE difference.

I did did this all on my phone, so pardon me if thoughts are a little scattered or if there are mistakes.

I'll respond in a semi-scattered way.

Harris is pretty much tapped out minute-wise in each game. He might Hank Gathers on me if I push him any further.

Totally agree on the some are less terrible O options.

I've admitted that I was a n00b pressing buttons in my first scouting/recruiting season. I think I'm doing better this time. That said, if everyone is chasing SPD/ATH, there has to be another way. There is in HBD, I can't believe HD is cookie-cutter.

Don't care about BLK/REB in guards but have read that LP helps in how a guy finishes at the basket. Can't say I've made it even close to a priority but thought it was noteworthy that you included it in the BLK/REB category. Another example of successful vets giving conflicting info. Which goes back to there has to be more than one way to be successful.

Stats-yes, I'm referring to last season. As I said, Franklin/Duncan aren't noticeably different now than they were in the last 10 games last season. I'm not sure it's possible to focus too much on current stats. Ratings are nice but results are what drives the game. I don't know enough to say "Well, no one can convince that Duncan is better than Pritts!!!!" But I can look at results and say "Pritts is producing better than Duncan" with certainty.

Turtle is spot on about ATH and DEF. I agree with pretty much everything he just conveyed. I would also like to note that my Kean team is the #1 overall seed in the conference tournament, and I stole one from turtle at his place this season.

I'll amend my comment on stats. I'm paying attention to offensive stats. I know the only real D stats are block, D-rebs and steals. There is no "stop" stat. But a guy shooting 28% is shooting 28% regardless of his ratings.

Posted by snafu4u on 12/28/2016 2:42:00 PM (view original):
Turtle is spot on about ATH and DEF. I agree with pretty much everything he just conveyed. I would also like to note that my Kean team is the #1 overall seed in the conference tournament, and I stole one from turtle at his place this season.

Hey, we are both #1 seeds, and I'm in the tougher side of the conference by far, I had 10 games vs top 100 teams this conference play to your 6??. Also, I would have been at 14 wins if it weren't for that BS game against New Jersey City, I forgot to gameplan, but there's still no way I should have lost.

Hope to see you again in the conference championship so I can have another shot.