Even if you had a season worth of games, you would have to doing an extensive study and go through the pbp of each game. You would have to take into an account the other team's defense, whether they were playing +/- defense, other team's IQ, other teams rebounding ability etc etc. I don't think it would be exact, but maybe then you would have a general idea of the impact of IQ on rebounding.

Edited to add: You would also have to take into account the randomness of rebounding as well.

Also another point, if you're changing defenses at the start of the season, the improvement from F to the other teams A and B IQs vs having a C mid way through the season vs the other teams A and B IQ's, of course you're going to see at least a little improvement.

Oddly enough, I don't think I have to do any of that.

My basic guess is that when I switch to 3-2 zone, Jansen-PF, Tebo-C, and they have equal IQ, that the rebounding numbers will be more similar.

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Posted by bad_luck on 12/29/2017 2:30:00 PM (view original):
WE also plays a role in rebounding.

Back in the old days of HD, WE did play a part in the game. A high WE would give a small boost.

At some point around 2008 or 2009, they stated that WE would no longer play a part in the game and it would just be limited to improving skills and IQ.

There is so much misinformation in this thread I am not sure where to start.....

"WE" NEVER mattered to anything except ratings and IQ growth.

There was a time when some moron 1st level CS representatives gave out false information about WE affecting game play but Tarek later said those tickets/answers were incorrect.

I read it in an old dev chat.

Dig it up, share it, then I will dig up a quote from tarek saying otherwise

Super old, 4/5/2005:

Can you explain the work ethic player attribute? Specifically, does work ethic only affect the ability of the player to improve their other ratings through practice, game time, and the like or does it also translate to intangibles, such as going harder after loose balls in games? Thanks, bistiza (bistiza - Hall of Famer - 7:00 PM)

Work ethic is used for more than player skill improvement - guys that have high work ethic will, all else being equal, be better rebounders (especially offensively) and better defenders.

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 12:53:00 PM (view original):
Thanks for your permission.

The obvious flaw, if one is playing 3 1/2 minutes more than the other, is that they're not facing the same individual opponents. But you clowns are too busy worrying over what I'm doing to even catch that.

bahahaha. wow.

Bad Luck already told you that there would be too much noise to draw any conclusions from this but you disregarded his advice.

Now you're saying that noise actually is the issue.

You're a funny guy.

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:00:00 PM (view original):
Oddly enough, I don't think I have to do any of that.

My basic guess is that when I switch to 3-2 zone, Jansen-PF, Tebo-C, and they have equal IQ, that the rebounding numbers will be more similar.

As opposed to the HUGE difference you saw in a six game sample?

Why do tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum care what conclusions I draw or the sample size or the obvious flaws?

I'll play 13-14 games in M2M with the big difference in IQ. Then I'll finish the season in 3-2 zone with the same IQs. I expect the REB between two similar players to become more similar with equal IQ. If it happens, it works for ME. If it doesn't, I guess you can say "YOU WERE WRONG!!!" while ignoring the comments you've made saying that nothing will be proven.

If you don't care what anyone else thinks about this then just go and do it. Why post it on the forums at all then.

The reason we 'care" (and I use that word loosely) is that you could run this pseudo experiment and get some conclusion in your head. Then you will turn around and post stuff about it later providing misinformation to people who don't know any better. Guess who that helps? No one.

It seems to bother you and BL. That is more than enough reason for me to post it.

Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:25:00 PM (view original):
The reason we 'care" (and I use that word loosely) is that you could run this pseudo experiment and get some conclusion in your head. Then you will turn around and post stuff about it later providing misinformation to people who don't know any better. Guess who that helps? No one.

And you/BL won't be around to say "NO WAY!!!!! BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!!!"?

If you would, please provide an example of me posting misinformation. Start looking.

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:21:00 PM (view original):
Why do tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum care what conclusions I draw or the sample size or the obvious flaws?

I'll play 13-14 games in M2M with the big difference in IQ. Then I'll finish the season in 3-2 zone with the same IQs. I expect the REB between two similar players to become more similar with equal IQ. If it happens, it works for ME. If it doesn't, I guess you can say "YOU WERE WRONG!!!" while ignoring the comments you've made saying that nothing will be proven.

Thing is, we won’t be able to say you were wrong because there will be no way to know if the rebounding difference had/has anything to do with IQ.

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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:21:00 PM (view original):
Why do tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum care what conclusions I draw or the sample size or the obvious flaws?

I'll play 13-14 games in M2M with the big difference in IQ. Then I'll finish the season in 3-2 zone with the same IQs. I expect the REB between two similar players to become more similar with equal IQ. If it happens, it works for ME. If it doesn't, I guess you can say "YOU WERE WRONG!!!" while ignoring the comments you've made saying that nothing will be proven.

Thing is, we won’t be able to say you were wrong because there will be no way to know if the rebounding difference had/has anything to do with IQ.

Aren't you already saying I'm wrong? What is going to stop you from doing it again in 3 weeks?

I'm not saying you're wrong that IQ affects rebounding. I'm saying that you have no idea how to run an experiment to get a reliable conclusion.

Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:30:00 PM (view original):
I'm not saying you're wrong that IQ affects rebounding. I'm saying that you have no idea how to run an experiment to get a reliable conclusion.

I don't care what you're saying now. I want you searching for that post where I'm providing misinformation about HD.