HD working as Intended Topic

Posted by gillispie1 on 2/26/2020 6:43:00 PM (view original):
yeah i wasn't being very serious at all, either. i *tried* to make that clear in my first post - which i thought was fairly whimsical - but i clearly failed! that's on me. but i sort of recognized it after a couple posts and hence my comment about probably taking it too far. it really was about giving dogg **** from the beginning. and not really to be tough, just screwing around. sorry for coming off the wrong way!!
No need for apologies! This is what we do! We bicker and argue, but it's never serious unless there's personal insults involved. You can insult my HD teams all you want Haha. I don't consider anything related to HD as being personal. I can be an aggressive argumentative person, but that's just who I am.

I'm the type of guy that will greet my friends with "Sup *****?" And in return I expect "nothin, slut". I know that not everyone sees that as normal! But it's just everyday language for me. I think that's why I like arguing with shoe. He's soooooooo serious all the time that I feel like I have to add a lil fun/humor and lighten the mood
2/27/2020 4:07 PM
Posted by topdogggbm on 2/26/2020 12:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 2/26/2020 11:58:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Basketts on 2/26/2020 11:22:00 AM (view original):
Pretty sure Gil co-coaches North Carolina in Smith, too. Having said that, you all jumping on topdogg for derailing this thread is funny considering you achieve the same thing by getting into petty arguments. Top's advice might not have been targeted toward fixing the core issues of D1 promotion, but it was a good-natured attempt to keep players playing this game, which we all benefit from. He also backed off his advice right after Storm made it clear he wasn't interested in building a dynasty at D2. It could have just ended there but, you know, internet fighting makes people feel tough.
I agree, I think Gil got too carried away with this one. Top had the best intentions in mind with his advice and really that's the important thing I think.

I agree with this as well. And a couple things to note.... didn't they say co-coaching can't be done any longer? And even if you can, what's the point? Just to show up and see what everybody else is doing?

And the most important point, and I HOPE gil would agree..... none of this is anger! I'm laughing while writing it all. I'd give gil a big ol HD Hug if he was standing with me! I have no problems with gil or anybody else here! I can't think of one individual here that I don't "like". It's all just table talk, and slingin' poo around. Nothing more.

I mean just the day before, gil congratulated me on getting from title 5 to title 10 very quickly. And I thanked him and appreciated it. So I'm sure he's in it for the sport of arguing too.

But I do find it funny that when spud posts that people say "you have no teams" and it's fine. But for gil everyone ran to his rescue hahaha.

Edit.... maybe I didn't like MikeT much. So there's one.
WARDO?!?!?!?!?!
2/27/2020 9:45 PM
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Posted by terps21234 on 2/27/2020 9:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by topdogggbm on 2/26/2020 12:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 2/26/2020 11:58:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Basketts on 2/26/2020 11:22:00 AM (view original):
Pretty sure Gil co-coaches North Carolina in Smith, too. Having said that, you all jumping on topdogg for derailing this thread is funny considering you achieve the same thing by getting into petty arguments. Top's advice might not have been targeted toward fixing the core issues of D1 promotion, but it was a good-natured attempt to keep players playing this game, which we all benefit from. He also backed off his advice right after Storm made it clear he wasn't interested in building a dynasty at D2. It could have just ended there but, you know, internet fighting makes people feel tough.
I agree, I think Gil got too carried away with this one. Top had the best intentions in mind with his advice and really that's the important thing I think.

I agree with this as well. And a couple things to note.... didn't they say co-coaching can't be done any longer? And even if you can, what's the point? Just to show up and see what everybody else is doing?

And the most important point, and I HOPE gil would agree..... none of this is anger! I'm laughing while writing it all. I'd give gil a big ol HD Hug if he was standing with me! I have no problems with gil or anybody else here! I can't think of one individual here that I don't "like". It's all just table talk, and slingin' poo around. Nothing more.

I mean just the day before, gil congratulated me on getting from title 5 to title 10 very quickly. And I thanked him and appreciated it. So I'm sure he's in it for the sport of arguing too.

But I do find it funny that when spud posts that people say "you have no teams" and it's fine. But for gil everyone ran to his rescue hahaha.

Edit.... maybe I didn't like MikeT much. So there's one.
WARDO?!?!?!?!?!
I don't get it?......

Late reaction...... now I get it! i don't hate fake wardo but I also don't consider him a coach. I consider him a fake forum member that is attention starved.
2/28/2020 6:18 AM (edited)
And is there really anything more sad than someone so attention starved they have to come on to a fake basketball website forum to try and get noticed?
2/28/2020 9:12 AM
Posted by mullycj on 2/28/2020 9:12:00 AM (view original):
And is there really anything more sad than someone so attention starved they have to come on to a fake basketball website forum to try and get noticed?
Maybe someone who creates several threads on a fake basketball forum whining about losing players off the big board to Early Entry.

Oh wait.
2/28/2020 9:36 AM
I will say as I've always said.

-Remove real life baseline prestige and make baseline a performance based prestige over X number of seasons. Maybe include a minimum baseline prestige based on power 6 conferences. Big 6 schools will become open to lower level coaches as the prestige will become attainable as they freefall.
Additionally this is Hoops DYNASTY. If all that mattered were the schools that were already good in real life, then don't call it Dynasty because you're not building one if your performance is bad. Just call it race to Big 6. We should encourage the possibility of people building up low level teams and conference with dynamic prestige.

-The reason so many people enjoy DII and DIII is for the statements above.
3/17/2020 12:48 PM
Posted by poncho2799 on 3/17/2020 12:48:00 PM (view original):
I will say as I've always said.

-Remove real life baseline prestige and make baseline a performance based prestige over X number of seasons. Maybe include a minimum baseline prestige based on power 6 conferences. Big 6 schools will become open to lower level coaches as the prestige will become attainable as they freefall.
Additionally this is Hoops DYNASTY. If all that mattered were the schools that were already good in real life, then don't call it Dynasty because you're not building one if your performance is bad. Just call it race to Big 6. We should encourage the possibility of people building up low level teams and conference with dynamic prestige.

-The reason so many people enjoy DII and DIII is for the statements above.
I respectfully disagree. I think the climb to D1 is part of the appeal. As is some connection to real life (which is always poor with HD). Otherwise who cares what the name of the school says. They just need to make this climb less daunting and less nonsensical.

Regarding your last statement - in almost every world, there are more people playing D1 than D2/D3 combined. So they don't seem to like it THAT much.

3/17/2020 2:06 PM
Posted by Benis on 3/17/2020 2:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by poncho2799 on 3/17/2020 12:48:00 PM (view original):
I will say as I've always said.

-Remove real life baseline prestige and make baseline a performance based prestige over X number of seasons. Maybe include a minimum baseline prestige based on power 6 conferences. Big 6 schools will become open to lower level coaches as the prestige will become attainable as they freefall.
Additionally this is Hoops DYNASTY. If all that mattered were the schools that were already good in real life, then don't call it Dynasty because you're not building one if your performance is bad. Just call it race to Big 6. We should encourage the possibility of people building up low level teams and conference with dynamic prestige.

-The reason so many people enjoy DII and DIII is for the statements above.
I respectfully disagree. I think the climb to D1 is part of the appeal. As is some connection to real life (which is always poor with HD). Otherwise who cares what the name of the school says. They just need to make this climb less daunting and less nonsensical.

Regarding your last statement - in almost every world, there are more people playing D1 than D2/D3 combined. So they don't seem to like it THAT much.

The climb to DI is part of the appeal and some people only want to see the well known DI teams. I actually started playing that game with that in mind, but there's only so many UNCs or Dukes available in HD. Once people realize that their goal of playing at their favorite school is not really an option unless they get lucky and someone leaves, it's on to plan B. Plan B consists of can I still compete with everyone else on an even playing field based on how well I do at the game? Looking at Tark for example, the answer is no. Yes, Delaware St won it this last season, but the last champ from a non big 6 was 27 seasons prior. Think about much worse this was when the world's were full.

If I can't get to plan A, my plan B shouldn't be forced into a Big 6 school I don't want just to compete every season. The world should be dynamic where I could build any team into a real life Duke or Kentucky. If only Big 6 teams are allowed to be dynasties, let's just call the game Big 6 dynasty.

Also I never intended to state that D2/3 was more popular than D1, just that they are alive and popular with many for a reason. I miss how full they were pre 3.0.
3/17/2020 4:18 PM
"Delaware St won it this last season, but the last champ from a non big 6 was 27 seasons prior."

D baseline prestige Texas, San Antonio just won the title in Knight the other day. Small schools are winning in all worlds.

I do agree that the high baseline prestige teams do have an advantage. But that advantage is SO much less than in the previous version. If you're good at this game, you can be successful at the small schools and especially at the mid major levels.

I guess we can argue what the 'dynasty' part means but in my opinion, if schools like Delaware St, Vermont, etc are winning titles, the dynasty part is working okay. I think taking a no name school and making it a power (by making S16s, FFs, title, etc) is not only very possible but is also very fun and very challenging.
3/17/2020 5:00 PM
Joh hiring process ……. something else the creators don't give a **** about.

Smith world, I am at G-town. I am a longshot for Pittsburgh......they won 14 games …..the past TWO seasons...
Not only is my current baseline prestige higher than them, my current actual prestige is higher than them ...yet its a longshot.

Its as if they have no common sense at all.
3/31/2020 9:47 AM
PS - of the 223 positions out there I am "qualified" for 0
1 = Not Qualified
10 = Keep looking
212 = Step backwards

I have no intention of moving. Just pointing out how absurd this process looks...….but duh …..like that's new news to you all. :)
3/31/2020 9:54 AM
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/Roster.aspx?tid=5493

7 walk-ons - well done game designers.
10/16/2020 2:02 PM
Posted by Benis on 3/17/2020 5:00:00 PM (view original):
"Delaware St won it this last season, but the last champ from a non big 6 was 27 seasons prior."

D baseline prestige Texas, San Antonio just won the title in Knight the other day. Small schools are winning in all worlds.

I do agree that the high baseline prestige teams do have an advantage. But that advantage is SO much less than in the previous version. If you're good at this game, you can be successful at the small schools and especially at the mid major levels.

I guess we can argue what the 'dynasty' part means but in my opinion, if schools like Delaware St, Vermont, etc are winning titles, the dynasty part is working okay. I think taking a no name school and making it a power (by making S16s, FFs, title, etc) is not only very possible but is also very fun and very challenging.
to be fair conference prestige is pretty important still.

The Big Sky in Wooden won 2 titles and had countless other Sweet 16s in a 15 year span. 8-9 humans and suddenly making a couple S16s = a B+ prestige.
8.5.1
10/16/2020 2:24 PM
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