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Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 12/24/2009FWIW, I find it ironic that the only team you own ( D3 Curry-Phelan) is in a human-less conference and you've been there for 10 seasons...looks to me you think reward points are more important than competition, and its guys like you that trash my gameplay....lol.

Another solid shot showing your lack of HD knowledge. Get back to me when you understand how reward points at d2/3 work. Then maybe we can discuss your ideas more.

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Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 12/24/2009Ok, I'll put this out to everyone.  Let's say you're playing Madden 10 and going into the last week of the season, a team rated a 68 is 7-8 in a weak division while a team that's rated an 82 is 4-11 in a great division.  You get to chose who you'd rather play to win one game to get into the playoffs, who do you choose to play, the 7-8, 68 or the 4-11, 82?In the context of the game/engine, which team is the better team?

How well do the coaches play the game? What tendencies do each team play? Are they better at passing D or running D? What kind of team do I have? Are their overalls skewed by something like a great special teams? Again, you fail.

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 12/25/2009Because you have people like coachbilly, zhawks, lostmyth, myself, etc. all trying to tell you that it's not. And the reason we know it's not is because we have the benefit of a lot of HD knowledge.  That means nothing to me....nobody agrees with you isn't a good enough (hell GOOD argument period) argument to tell/get me to stop.  If you guys think that player ratings aren't the MOST DETERMINANT aspect of the game, then you're all delusional and wrong...plain and simple.

And right here, again, you show your complete lack of HD knowledge, which does not allow you to accurately discuss what does or does not make a player or team quote "Talented" and sure ratings do matter, somewhat but there is so much more then ratings to HD and if you think that ratings is all there is to it then why are you paying $13/mo for this game?

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If dalter wants to get in a D3 with me, same conference, no recruiting, in a 2 game per day world setting up a 70 point overall difference I'm game. I'll do the research, give him a couple different choices, hell maybe we will recruit a bit, but I am willing to put my money where my mouth is.

Zhawks, I'm very tempted to respond to every single last one of your points here, and I still might because from a debate standpoint its the right thing to do, however this thread was really just about to wrap up...if dalter would only answer my questions, I would draw conclusions, make some final comments and be on my way, so forgive me if I don't respond to all of your posts in attempt to give HD users their forum back. This however doesn't mean I'm backing down by any means, so don't take it as such.

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/25/2009

Even if you were to do this I wouldn't believe anything you posted unless you included formulas and processes so we could replicate your numbers, as it is you would skew your numbers to try and show us up.

I'm going to address all of your posts in this response so please keep up. This was the most ridiculous one and most important to me personally so I will respond to this first.

I'm not showing you ANYTHING. I'm not going to let you or anyone steal my ideas/ranking formats...people that do rankings do keep their formulas close to their chest...I can't really think of anyone out there that does a math/computer ranking that openly and outwardly lists their EXACT formula. They may tell you how its done and what the concepts are, but they aren't going to lay out the formula for people to hawk, and I will not be the one to start. I assure you that I wouldn't try to show anyone up, I am a man of integrity and I would not skew the numbers in attempt to make myself look good, especially for you guys. I have done this in real life for 7+ years now...I really think you should give me the benefit of the doubt. But if you don't or wouldn't believe what my rankings would say...fine...I don't care...I don't want or need your blessing/approval. If you can't trust me then that's your problem.

As for the other stuff...the boob thing is virtually over. Yes I did call some of you boobs and that was inappropriate, but largely it was a general term and when I use the term average boob, that could be anyone and everyone. Unfortunately, at times here I've let my frustration of people skirting posts/questions get the best of me...you wouldn't understand because it didn't happen to you.

You guys don't lack character because you don't agree with me, the belligerents lack character because you won't even consider my concepts...you're calling a logical concept illogical....that's incredibly ridiculous and undebatable.

As far as the Madden thing goes, why do you insist on answering questions with questions? I put the question out to you, answer it. The right answer is 68 all day long...nobody will say it because that would be agreeing with me and helping me make my point.....the horror!

I don't care about the reward points, I know how they work, I exploited it in CRD under my other name statsink where I won 5 titles at the lowest level and got reward points up the ying yang. It doesn't mean what I was doing wasn't weak, just as it isn't for arssintheb. You try to act like some champion of HD and I find out that A. you're denying an alias (arss and aintheb are the same guy) and B. your other username's only team is in D3 in a human-less conference? That's weak all over...ANYONE can succeed in this game in a conference full of sims.

Lastly, your contention that I'm closed-minded is ridiculous, especially considering the fact that I've conceded some of y'alls points, agreed that the overall team ratings need improvement, and lostmyth got me thinking more about how or not to include FT shooting in the team ratings...but I'm closed-minded because I won't close up shop because you guys think I should....I mean really? You guys pick and choose what you want to respond to, skirt questions, deny logical systems as being logical, belligerently tell me I'm wrong for no other reason than you don't agree with me, and I'm the one that's closed-minded? Ha! Anyone here can see the truth here if they take the colonels19 hater goggles off, on sale at Target for $12.95.

Oh, and again, if you say that player ratings aren't the MAIN DETERMINANT for who wins and loses, then quite frankly, you're wrong and just trying to ridiculously oppose me by denying the truth.

You obviously don't understand rewards points, because after ten years at division three, you get jack for reward points no matter WHAT you do.

"1st – 2nd NT Appearance = 100%
3rd – 4th NT Appearance = 75%
5th – 6th NT Appearance = 50%
More than 6th NT Appearance = 25%"

Quote: Originally Posted By a_in_the_b on 12/26/2009
You obviously don't understand rewards points, because after ten years at division three, you get jack for reward points no matter WHAT you do.

"1st – 2nd NT Appearance = 100%
3rd – 4th NT Appearance = 75%
5th – 6th NT Appearance = 50%
More than 6th NT Appearance = 25%"

Better to get some than risk moving up and getting none, right? You edited this post before I could respond to it...classy...I saw the extended version suggesting that I hadn't done enough research and that the conference had depopulated over time...anyhow...the realities of the reward points doesn't make what you're doing any less weak...it was just like when I dominated the bottom level of CRD with 3 other human players...I wasn't a G at the game, I just had more talent, parts, etc built up because I had been there longer, earned a better prestige, etc...just like you're doing.

Ahhh and since you challenged me in the original post prior to edit and do some research as to how your conference has depopulated over time...I'm going to call your bluff and I did do that research....the results were very entertaining...

The following is a list of sim seasons in arssintheb's conference where he has D3 Curry in Phelan...please note that all but 2 users were one and dones, and I'm giving arss a bit of a break, its actually one, but one guy did play in consecutive seasons 11 (before arss was there) and 10. Without further ado/adieu....

NUMBER OF SIM SEASONS...

Nicholls - 9/10

East Nazarene - 10/10

Gordon - 8/10

New England - 9/10

Endicott - 10/10

Salve Regina - 9/10

Colby-Sawyer - 9/10

Anna Maria - 4/10!!!!!

Wentworth Tech - 10/10

Roger Williams - 9/10

University of New England - 9/10

....Must have had some great competition over the years.....